Sunday, August 27, 2006

A tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

Now here’s another lunatic. Here’s a mouth-frother, here’s a bigot, here’s a stiff-necked buffoon who, in one ranting article, shows all that is wrong, footling and absurd about modern China.

This man is a professor at the Shanghai Academy of Social Sciences. A professor! In this is shown so much that is wrong about today’s China. A country’s educational system should be home the best and brightest, to those who can think, weigh, balance, judge. And instead what does poor China get? Knee-jerk nationalists like this, myopic, thoughtless, a crass dolt who thinks like a sheep, rages like a hyena, and is impotent like a mule. Ah, Zhang, proud Zhang, dressed in a little brief authority, like an angry ape.

And – astonishment piles on astonishment – he is a professor of psychology! A man who should have some insight into the shades and ways of thought, the grades and colors of morality, comes out instead with such an article! Every word of it in a nail in the coffin of his credibility.

Yet this is what passes for the educated in China. This is the caliber of person China has in its most prestigious institutes. What hope can there be for China when people like this educate its young? How can the country ever take its rightful place among the leaders of the world when this is the standard of its thinkers?

I hold my head in my hands as I read his article. I had hoped China was moving beyond such folly; but as I read and re-read what he writes I see how strong the path to failure is, how compelling. If China cannot get past its Zhang Jiehais, what hope?

Look at this man, look, listen, listen and see what modern China can be.

Today, with tremendous anger, I will tell you the story of an immoral foreigner and I call upon all Chinese compatriots to get together and kick this immoral foreigner out of China.

Ah, the pomposity of his tone, the bluster, the arrogance. Yet this is a common thing in China, the group mind, the `all Chinese compatriots’ stance, the suggestion that to be foreign is to be inferior. And then too the safety in numbers stance, the righteous indignation of the crowd. Zhang Jiehai (and he is not alone in this stance) can only see the world in one way; he expects everyone to see like him, think like him. He cannot understand that others might have differing views, cannot see anything but black and white.

And so on he goes:-

This is intolerable and this piece of garbage must be found and kicked out of China!!!

This also is another common knee-jerk phrase that most expats in China will know well. China for the Chinese. We are one. We are us. You are you. You are here only as long as it pleases us.

This is mere variation on the chime most expats will know well, the by-rote patter they hear when they have any complaint about the country -- ‘If you don’t like China, go home!

Once, he was even shameless enough to say, "I 'm tired of her already. A cunt is a cunt. I keep her just so that I can play with her again."

Which is perfectly true. I did say that. I am not proud of it, but nor will I lie about it. And I hardly think it is a rare attitude. I am sure many guys – and women too – have slept with a person they care nothing much for merely for the pleasure.

This piece of garbage's favorite show is to use obscene and pornographic language to describe the bodies of Chinese women and how they made love. For example, "My dearest Tingting, you have a very good and beautiful body. I cannot stop thinking about your beautiful skin, your lovely, smooth and soft breasts, you sexy, smooth and fine waist, your sweet and pretty legs and arms ... oh, of course, you are so pretty, so sexy and so perfect between your legs!"

Obscene and pornographic? To tell a woman how wonderful she is? The crashing irony of this, that after lecturing me for being dismissive of the average Chinese guy’s romantic skills he shows how few he has, escapes him. To tell a woman she is pretty and sexy is obscene?

While in general Zhang Jiehai reports what I said accurately, I must take issue with his claim that I wrote Chinese men are ‘incredibly ugly.’ It is possible that he merely misunderstood me – for sure he is no thinker, no reader – but I never said anything remotely similar to this.

But what makes it intolerable for me is that this piece of garbage deliberately hurt the feelings of the Chinese national feelings in his class and he openly spoke to divide China.

And there it is again; the inability to conceive that other people might think in other ways. Ah, no such uncertainly for Zhang Jiehai, no; to him all Chinese people think the same, feel the same, are the same. Sure, when I say `Chinese guys are..’ I am `a piece of garbage’; but when he says `Chinese national feelings’ he is nothing but justified, insightful and correct.

As everybody knows, on the 15th of this month, Japanese prime minister Koizumi will visit the Yasukuni Shrine once more and thereby draw strong protests from China and many Asian countries. But this piece of garbage openly wrote on his blog on August 17 to denigrate the nationalistic feelings of the Chinese people!

And again. If I do not agree with `the nationalistic feeling of the Chinese people’ then I must be trying to denigrate China. If I do not think in the Zhang Jiehai approved manner, I must perforce be wrong.

On goes the parade of ignorance:

In the essay "The two fatal flaws of the Chinese people," I praised the Israelis for "hunting down the Nazis" at all costs and then finally sending them to hang on the Israelis' own gallows.

Now while this is true, and commendable, it has little relevance here. As I made explicitly clear in my blog, the justified target of anger is those who were guilty of crimes. Such people are the target of the Simon Wiesenthal center, and rightly so. But in China today, Japanese people in general are hated, merely for being Japanese. In any case, China’s own government suspended action against a large number of Japanese war criminals in the interests of fostering good relations between the two countries.

the Japanese would have apologized to us a long time ago and they would not dream of going to any Yasukuni Shrine.

Man, I am getting to sound as absurd as Zhang Jiehai himself. There is so much lunacy in his article that merely by replying to it I am tainted with his sickness myself. For this particular gem of nonsense I will merely point out what I said before – that Japan has apologized. And I will also ask, can one apologize for a crime one has not committed? Today’s Japanese government, after all, murdered no one. But if one can apologize for the crimes of one’s predecessors, when will the CPC apologize for the 30 to 50 million deaths it caused?

But what does Zhang Jiehai want? For today’s Japanese people to apologize for something they did not do to someone they did not harm?

He even dared to openly engaged in activities to divide China. For example, he once asked a student from Xinjiang: "Is Xinjiang really a part of China?" At the same time, he told his students any number of times: "Taiwan is really an independent country."

And once more I hold my head in my hands. I expect such knee-jerk tosh from students, but to hear it from a professor saddens me greatly. Again – how ever can China hope to become great when this is the caliber of its intellectual elite?

I am willing to listen to the person who tells me Xinjiang is part of China.

Zhang Jiehai is not willing even to countenance the opposite argument. What kind of academic will not even accept an argument that opposes his own? Well, a shit kind of academic, that’s what.

I have talked to several Muslim students from Xinjiang. They most certainly do not feel Xinjiang should be part of China. And as for Taiwan... It simply is a separate country, and there’s no possible way to deny it. Now whether it should be separate or should remain separate is a different argument. But now, today, it is separate. The Taiwanese choose their own leaders; they have their own laws, language, currency, passport. Beijing has zero direct power over Taiwan; and therefore while all sides may preserve the `one country two systems’ fiction, the fact of the matter is that Taiwan is separate. One needs look no further than the international attitude to a Taiwanese passport and a Chinese passport for the truth of that.

It is the job of an academic to try to see things as they are, not as they are wished to be. Zhang Jiehai falls at this elementary hurdle. He is not even on the lowest rung of the path to true intelligence.

For the Chinese women as well as the Chinese men, this is lively and hard-to-find education material!

Indeed. Clearly the kind of education material Zhang Jiehai is capable of producing has no merit.

He gloated: "It is very difficult for western women here. Someone like me will not even glance at a western woman. I treat them as if they are invisible. They don't exist."

This is again perhaps a misreading of my point, and I cannot really criticize Zhang Jiehai on it; after all, I am sure his English is a fuck sight better than my Chinese. Nonetheless, I was not gloating. I was merely pointing out the reality of life in China today.

On one hand, as a scholar and a man,

You are no scholar, Sir. You profane the very word. You have no claim to the title. A scholar is everything you are not. You are merely a bigot and a parasite.

I have relentlessly and directly criticized Chinese men, because I am one of them. On the other hand, I have always been reticent with respect to Chinese women, which included our mothers, wives, sisters and daughters.

In a nutshell, there it is. China man’s attitude to woman. Most thinking women would find such an attitude offensive and patronizing.

Zhang Jiehai, women do not want to be treated with kid gloves, they do not want to be put on a pedestal, they do not want to be treated as works of art. The want to be seen as equals. They do not want your offensive, patriarchal bullshit.

Especially this piece of garbage, who is in the business of an engineer of the soul, and the engineer of the soul of our elites!

And after all this, you have the gall to talk about engineering souls, my lord fool? You who clearly can only engineer the most paltry, staid and desiccated of thinkers?

I am a researcher in psychology.

Barely.

The Chinese women that he dallied with are his students. Outside of China, relationships between teachers and students are strictly prohibited. But this piece of garbage used his status as teacher to deceive his inexperienced female students. We ask how such a beast can be a teacher?

Learn to read, Zhang Jiehai, learn to read. I only get involved with women after they have ceased to be my students.

Our relevant departments really ought to step in!

Ah, yes; if you do not like what someone else says, shut them down. And you call yourself an academic!

The most valuable hint is that he went to the Tianping Hotel with a female student and the room has no window. Everybody knows that very few hotel rooms have no window (I have never encountered a windowless room). When I went to check at the Tianping Hotel, they really did not have any windowless rooms.

This is perhaps the most astonishing comment of all. This man went to a location I claimed to have been to see if it existed. He sees some blog on the net and gets so righteous indignant about it that he turns himself into Sherlock Holmes. He did this; he went to the Tianping Hotel to ask them about their rooms. What a bumbling, impotent buffoon! And this is the caliber of China’s academics. This is what they worry themselves about? I am just one guy, of no especial importance, not much more or less than many expats and certainly no different to a goodly number of local men, who cheat and cog and play just as much as I do.

Listen to yourself, Zhang Jiehai, listen to yourself.

If people think that there is a foreign language teacher who fits these descriptions, or otherwise find valuable clues, please leave a comment at my blog or contact me directly via email.

Netizens and compatriots, if you are a Chinese man with guts and if you respect Chinese women, please join this "Internet hunt for the immoral foreigner"! Let us act together! I believe in the power of the Internet, because I believe in the power of the Chinese people!

I am just aghast at this. Truly, I fear for China. Not just because of the utter paucity of thinking, life, truth and honesty that typifies the Zhang Jiehais of today’s China, nor just that if he is any representative of the country's academic quality China is doomed, but also because in calling for a witch-hunt he calls for ugliness and hatred, he calls for fascism, he calls for ignorance.

Zhang Jiehai, you are a far greater danger to China than ever I could be. You spread ignorance, lies and poison; you stifle thought, freedom and intellect. You are stupidity, folly, contempt.

It is because of people like you that so many of China’s best and brightest seek education abroad. You have nothing to offer the young of today’s China but bankrupt ideas and meaningless platitudes. You drive the finest minds of China to the West. You have nothing to say. You have nothing to teach.

Poor China, to still be so hurt by her own people!


(This entry was edited after posting to correct the fact that Zhang Jiehai is a member of the Shanghai Academy of Social Sciences, not the Chinese Academy of Sciences. Part of my anger at Zhang was that I erroneously thought he was a member of the CAS, which has had my respect for a long time. They have some truly outstanding thinkers and researchers, and I was disappointed to see a clod like this among their ranks. I will let the entry stand; but I offer an unreserved apology for having briefly traduced the CAS)



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Anonymous said...

Zhang Jiehai (and he is not alone in this stance) can only see the world in one way; he expects everyone to see like him, think like him. He cannot understand that others might have differing views, cannot see anything but black and white.

Precisely like you.

Anonymous said...

both of you don't quite understand what you're doing now, anyway, that's also kind of a communication, lol

Anonymous said...

Zhang Jiehai is not willing even to countenance the opposite argument. What kind of academic will not even accept an argument that opposes his own? Well, a shit kind of academic, that’s what.

Precisely like you.

Anonymous said...

It is the job of an academic to try to see things as they are, not as they are wished to be. Zhang Jiehai falls at this elementary hurdle. He is not even on the lowest rung of the path to true intelligence.

Precisely like you.

Anonymous said...

You are no scholar, Sir. You profane the very word. You have no claim to the title. A scholar is everything you are not. You are merely a bigot and a parasite.

Precisely like you.

fffffffffffffffffffffffffff said...

before you make more kakaka...,
you did not answer my question.

why do you purposedly choose "lover"
instead of "f..ker" to ignore the fact your mom or wife is multi-f..ked?

u said u don't care, it seems the
word "f..k" really provokes your queasiness about a very nature human action, dig a hole...,

you are liar, you lie about your so-called openess. Whoever believes that openess is no brianer...

Anonymous said...

Well, ppl from a small island are really short-sighted and knows nothing but being arrogance. What you have written clearly tells us what a typical english jerk can be. english chicks have their 'attractive' pear shape body which is quite famous around world. Probably that's why you are getting so sick out of this.

engisland has nothing but its legacy dreams being a kingdom without sunset. but now, you only get endless raining and dark winters in the island. that's probably why you leave the hell and go to china.

wake up, mate! have a glance of what engisland is now: anti-social behaviour, excessive drinking, knife crime, and students cannot even read properly when they are enrolled in unis... the only thing you left to be proud of is ur fucking ability. Ironically, based on a survey to men in the world, english men, without any doubts, have the shortest erection time, less than 2 mins. congratulations!

i am deeply sorry for those nice britons who could be humiliated becos of you and your behaviour.

The Deviator said...

Some poor dumb slob of an English teacher in Shanghai is going to date an English teach and suddenly find himself the innocent victim of a witch hunt.

Vigilante "justice" by nationalists with threatened manhood can't end well.

Still, it's amusing to see the outrage China Bounder has generated by mixing sex, politics, and national insecurity.

Anonymous said...

Poor english guy, still in the dream of being from a kingdom without sunset. But now, england only has a spinless pussy dog to lead the country. Long gone the kingdom and the spirit...

FL said...

man...get over yourself alreday. you are just a pathetic guy who cannot find anyhting else meaningful in your life. Talking about arrogance, you are a perfect example b/c you never seem to accept the (at least possible)validity of others' criticism.

Those women who you had sex with are either incredibely naive, messed-up or big-players. Nothing you wrote here can speak to any "facts" about Shanghai/Chinese women in general.

this is my first and last comment. I am out of here.

Anonymous said...

please leave this city and this country. PLEASE. HURRY.

I like you. I do not want anything to happen to you.

Please pack and leave.

PLEASE. ACT. QUICK.

ffffffffffffffffffffffffff said...

hi, chinabound,

Was your queen a virgin when gets married? Was she f..ked many times before her husband started?

according to your non-medieval thought, this question is not offensive at all, is it?

a reader said...

Once, he was even shameless enough to say, "I 'm tired of her already. A cunt is a cunt. I keep her just so that I can play with her again."

Which is perfectly true. I did say that. I am not proud of it, but nor will I lie about it. And I hardly think it is a rare attitude. I am sure many guys – and women too – have slept with a person they care nothing much for merely for the pleasure.

--------------------------------

well, funny how you say "shameless" when Zhang quoted your own words. Saying "not proud of it" or honest about it doesn't make it a less shameful deeds (i mean saying those exact words, perhaps not entirely applicable to how you court women), not in the least justified by how you imagine many others would do. A very lame excuse, a big lie when you say you respected all those women.

fffffffffffffffffffffffffff said...

You said,
Which is perfectly true. I did say that. I am not proud of it, but nor will I lie about it. And I hardly think it is a rare attitude. I am sure many guys – and women too – have slept with a person they care nothing much for merely for the pleasure.

BUT, why are you so hesitated to say that questions like how many times your mom, your wife had had been f..ked are no offender to you?

Why do you avoid f..k since it's a sheer pleasure?

fffffffffffffffffffffffffffff said...

You said,
To tell a woman she is pretty and sexy is obscene?

I might agree on you before you agree that asking a guy how many times his mom/wife was f..ked is truely polite.

Chinabounderess said...

that Zhang needs to get laid, and then he can try to get a life. Im so TIRED of all those comments "let us stand together, chinese power, blah blah blah"

Anonymous said...

We ppl dunt alwayz think the same. However, we all agree that you should get the fuck out of here!

cindy said...

this guy is plain stupid and childish...and he does not even know that?! keep rambling here about what he "thinks"/"believes" is true... read more,see more, talk to people more, CHINABOUNDER, and you do not have to fuck them, btw, to get them talking--in case you do not know. I cannot believe someone else would think he is "bright". oh..boy..he is 36. what a treasure.

Anonymous said...

If you talk to Sean Connery, he will say Scotland should be an independent country;

If you talk to Catholics in northern Ireland, most of them support a united Ireland,

So, why there's still a United Kingdom?

I've little problem with your life style, but, if you want to talk about China (not the girls slept with you), please do more study to keep you from appering too ignorant and arrogant...

anyway, diversity makes the world beautiful! lol

Anonymous said...

Chinabounder is here to get laid coz he cannot get it elsewhere. Maybe we really blame this loser too much.

fffffffffffffffffffffffff said...

u really make a long shit without answering my question,

"how many times had your mom been
f..ked...".

Are u a coward, nationalized english man?

Biter said...

This is so tragically unfunny. The blog posts are nothing compared to vile bleating that fills the comment boards. The primitives here who beat their collective chests in outrage should be ashamed. There is no way anything in this blog could ever be said in a polite context to anyone, and if you don't like it then you can simply ignore it. I am sure every member of the Chinese 'Yoof' here is already pulling off similar mental gymnastics by ignoring the horrifying deficiencies within their own country and wasting precious moments howling at the moon.

Apparently China is currently in the primary stage of socialism. That is moving stuff, as the view from here shows that China has yet to reach the primary stage of civilization. For the 'professor' who kindly took time out to pen this great call to arms, perhaps you could perform another great act of charity and have yourself sterilised. Then future generations will have the LIBERTY of not having to endure your strain of idiocy.

Anonymous said...

Take it easy. I am thinking maybe you should have your experience(Sex & Politics) published. It gives a rare and poignant angle to capture the current Chinese society that undergoes a fleeting transition. Someday it could even be taken as a classic to study the changing China.

Anonymous said...

has anyone remembered the Japanese story with escorts in ZHUHAI in 2004? In some chinese minds, chinese girls can't be fucked by foreign people, forgetting some of them sleep with escorts in Beijing or Bangkok without paying one penny, since that is paid by government money.

Whatever, chinese like to review one foreigner's point as that of a country. So, be careful , your some viewpoint may endanger ur compatriot.Like some guy saying :"is queen a virgin before DONGFang night?". LOL

Anonymous said...

楼上biter的言语好毒喔(名副其实)。。声称所谓礼仪文明,内心的狭隘龌龊和冰冷虚伪却是尽显,好恶心!

Anonymous said...

Well, your blog does not make your fucking advantures any easier I guess. :-)

Anonymous said...

1.出来混,迟早要还的。
2.淫人妻女者,妻女必被人淫。

以上,谨记

ffffffffffffffffffffffffffff said...

anonimous said,
like some guy saying :"is queen a virgin before DONGFang night?". LOL


Look, you are against the rule of game. Nationalized man.

Being a open minded man, there is no offence of talking about queen's virginity. Are u still living in dark age?

I do see you are not equal with chinese woman and queen.

we are free of talking about f..king chinese woman and f..king queen, arent we?

ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff said...

by arguing with subway beggars,
here comes arguments that's funny.

Is queen a virgin when she married?

If not, how many had f..ked her?
what the size her puusy is? is it lager enough to enbrace a KingKong's? If yes, surely she would make man happy and she is so lovely...

What do you think if she was not?

fffffffffffffffffffffffffffff said...

A subway beggar said,
Whatever, chinese like to review one foreigner's point as that of a country. So, be careful , your some viewpoint may endanger ur compatriot.Like some guy saying :"is queen a virgin before DONGFang night?". LOL

---
beggar made logic weakness here.
It seems to him his queen should not be related with virginity issue?
why, why shouldn't she? she does not have hole in the body or what?

why shouldnt we concern about her pussy's size?

maybe she gains or already gained many pleasure by venery with not only one.

God bless queen. God, please provide queen more male companion since she will have more pleasure.

Guys, you wont denny queen has pleasure when having sex, will you?

Anonymous said...

那个谁,一串f...f,有点技术含量好不好,讲点素质好不好,表人堕落就更堕落。

fffffffffffffffffffffffffffff said...

i have to appologize to all, i have no intension to offend the queen and queen mother.

but i have to admit i'm devil.

a devil is triggered only by evil...

a devil won't be stopped until a women is sacrified, namely the blogger's wife, mother, his queen, and queen mother...

Anonymous said...

China Bounder, how about coming to Japan to fuck Japanese women? Unlike China, Japan is a REAL democratic country, and you have a lot of freedom to fuck any Japanese women you want to sell your body to. The only problem is: thousands of British people, Australians and Americans have already occupied all of the ENGLISH teaching positions here. Craps like you who have no education, no degree, and no morality will find no jobs here. I guess you are thinking of leaving China (you'll have to!), what is the next fuck place for you?!

Anonymous said...

Well, just stop biting like dogs - both of you. 90% car drivers belive that they drive better than others. People tend to think they are smarter than others...

Sex stories are sex stories. Too much comments on China society will ruin this blog site. Mr Bounder as a foreigner, he can have his understanding about China. But, this understanding is just confined in his environment. He is dealing poeple (especially women) in this very environment. If you have not spent 20 years in China, and traveled every corner in this huge country, you wont really know it.

Be fair; Be neutral. Be less-criticizing.

Mr. Bounder is a good writer. I enjoy reading his writings. I skip paragraphs of his comments on China and Chinese people. Mostly These comments look sharp and smart but ... somehow naive ... or, premature.

Keep rolling the good part!

ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff said...

nonymous said...

那个谁,一串f...f,有点技术含量好不好,讲点素质好不好,表人堕落就更堕落。

--
China Bounder the beggar said he is open minded. My comments are to test whether he is like what he describes himself.

looks he does not seems to care there are many shots on his mother's body..., and he assumes she would have had one shock per shot...

unfotunately, many china girls seem to agree his point of openess...
that's why he has market in chnia...

Anonymous said...

i was directed here from another site and was amazed by the sheer dullness of this sex and shanghai blog. about as erotic as frying an egg (with a little salt). but then such dullness is usual on 95% of blogs.

The highlight is this little comment box, especially those vicious attacks on england, britain, the UK and (bless her) the queen. someone should have a word with these cruel posters and tell them that the majority of brits (especially those overseas) don't give a monkeys' about the UK's standing in the modern world, nor the sexual orientation of its present and former queens. while a foreigner insulting chairman mao may cause all sorts of righteous indignation in China, doing the same to the english queen would cause nothing more than a giggle of agreement because laughing at ourselves and our 'leaders' is what we do best, try it china. it would make you feel much better.

anyway, that's my one and only visit here. i will be off. good luck to all the lovers out there. all the ladies and all the psychology professors who need to think about how they can be more attractive to ladies (rather than trying to stop those pesky foreign men from being attractive to their 'sisters' and 'mothers').

Anonymous said...

I read the Zhang Jiehai article with great alarm. You can dislike Chinabounder and his views, but to instigate a witchhunt? To deny that Taiwan is a separate country? Chinabounder is a scoundrel. But Zhang is a lunatic. And, as expected, there is little intelligence discourse in the comments. I must admit though, Chinabounder's blog has become much more interesting as a result...

fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff said...

to upper poster,

what makes you think talking about the queen's sex pleasure is not good?

isnt she a woman?

she will feel different from those
chinese women? she does not like more attractive man?


I'm not defending Mao. Those Maoist did not talk about your queen. It's me. A sex pleasure lover.

BTW Tell your queen, my gun lasts longer than her hubby, I'll make her happy. I'm romantic, aren't I? And i can play her with even SM games, more exiting , right?

fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff said...

To all britons,

I'm not assualting your queen.
I'm attacking "his" queen.

It's you, educated, civilized, non-animalized gentle men show your respect to her majesty. Solute to you all.

But this nationarized one hasn't said a single word to defend your queen yet.

I suggest you Briton seriously re-think of your naturaization program.

Don't grant pride of being Roman to barbarians. It's barbarians who destroied Rome.

I should show my greatest sympathy to you Christians. Since your were tortured(i mean raped) by many, name of some, gauls, vandals, goths, moors, huns, and ....

i guess this is what so-called openess come from?

fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff said...

The unnamed briton,
...
sexual orientation of its present and former queens...

seems you get lost.

I'm talking about her majesty's sex history, loudly.

i seems you won't feel uncomfotable
when someone is talking about your queen's sex history, and describe how she is played and pleased on the bed ...,is it right?

ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff said...

strange enough,

Talking about whether queen is virgin is depicted as attacking her?! Especially when he is talking about he and his akin's indifference about her sex oriental?

did i ever talk about sex oriental?

My concern is how deep can dick dig a hole in queen body by different attractive men and give her pleasure.


Can I call that guy inconsistant or LIAR?

The Humanaught said...

@fffffffffffffffffff: man, you are one weird individual. You're trying desperately to explain your point. We get it... it's just weird and lacks perspective. I dare say that Chinabounder has no idea how many times his mother has had sex and I'll go on a limb and guess that most of us don't want to know. If he starts sleeping with your mom, then get offended about mothers... but (and again, I'm guessing), he's not sleeping with her. And the queen thing? How's the fit in? Chinabounder, did you sleep with Mr. Mao?

It should be noted that at no point did Chinabounder "force" himself upon these girls. It's ridiculous to assume that these girls didn't want to have sex just as much as he did. Ridiculous and archaic.

As for Chinabounder's politics. I'm sure much of it is shared across the globe in informed circles. It's difficult to have a blog in China, confronted with the surface and the reality of life in China and not want to compare and contrast the two.

End of the day, this is Chinabounder's blog, and he's free to (and somewhat expected to) speak his mind. Who are we to criticize.

And for the love of Mao, standup, and stop posting annonymously... click the "Other" button and put in a damn name. It doesn't even have to be real... just some damn name so all these "annonymous" comments don't blend together as one unified voice - sorta strengthens the collective-mind argument.

Anonymous said...

LITTL JOHN BULLOCK IS PEEING IN HIS PANTS.

Get so scared that you are going be kicked out China so that you had to go back your hometown working as a tight-pants gay bar waiter instead of a English teacher?

Ain't cool, eh?

Anonymous said...

....To all britons,I'm not assualting your queen....

You mean that weird-daily-hat-change-dunno-how-to-get-her -kids-straight-old-bag?

fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff said...

Humanaught,

1. i dont care about Mao at all,
why you think i'm taking about mao?

2. we are talking about woman and sex here, arent we? since queen is woman too, i think i'm right on the track.

3. it's his freedom to decribe himself as a saint, it's my freedom to prove he is inconsistant..., i have fun here, what to do with thou?


4. if he really dislikes the topics here, maybe he can change configuration to disallow comments,
i doubt a language teacher has ability to do so...

5. if he does 4, he thus become Mao's disciple...

6. I have freedom to choose name as you do. you can't force ppl to think your way, can u?

ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff said...

those english teachers the bum seem never understand this,

ChinaBounder says he is open minded,
he hints, and many of you also say, he or you don't care how many times his and your mother were f..ked by others.

strange enough, when you talk about your mother's big pussy, you all try to avoid the word fuck, why? isnt that she is fucked a matter of fact?

why choose to avoid fuck?
I know english language becomes
more and more indirect, but do you really think have sex and fuck are same?

fuck is fuck, do admit the fact, subway beggars, are you going to deny facts?

I also don't care how many time his mother or your mother were fucked.

My only concern is when i say "hai, your mother is fucked woman" to you open minded guys i won't be physically attacked.

but as time goes, more posts post,
i really doubt you open minded men will hit me.

that proves you feel offensive when someone mentioned your mom, sister and queen was dug a hole in the body.

question is, why do you feel offensive since you are "open minded"?

ffffffffffffffffffffffffffff said...

i don't understand why queen and queen mother are not relevant to this topic.

she is woman, she has sex request,
she will be attracted by afftractive romantic men, she will enjoy of sextual pleasure, she has bosom, she has vagina, she can emit spur...lots of fun...

she is perfect for an able man...

and most important, she does not nned to be a virgin when she married. That greatly reduces man's sin feeling when having sex with her.

It's really romantic to have sex with queen and royal family...

The teachers, try to chanllege your limit to get one of them. You arent telling you are secondary citizen in your country and not able to get her, are you? if you cannt even make a simple dash into her pussy, that means you are less attractive than the ones she chooses, shame on you, shame on you of being less attractrive.

be confidence and brave like your culture always encouranges you, charge, horseman.

if you fail,I will present my sincere condolence your libido.

Pedant said...


Possible Asian "small penis" gene identified in Japanese sample

fffffffffffffffffffffffff said...

Pedant you made the point,man.


Possible Briton's "smaller penis" won't satisfy the queen while huns', vandals' and goths' will.

please feel safe, there are more and more nationarized "bigger penis" will reisde in brion and maybe the next king or queeen will be more colorful than what now he or she is...

javascript:void(0) said...

thanks to ChinaBinder, all english teachers the beggar, british queen, queen mother...

I guess i'm now a little bit infamous
or famous in english teacher community in shanghai..

thank you all, thanks. bow...

bye for now. I have to admit i've used your blog to practice how to insult a "noble" man.

are you sure you are clever enough not used by those chinese girls as a tool or sex tool?

Chen said...

fffffff,

We see you are trying to make a point here but you are wasting a lot of time and space. Your English is not very good and your quasi-arguments have little effect because you keep posting the same semi-coherent stream of consciousness. You don't like Chinabounder. We get it.

And stick with Chinese if you want to continue sharing. That way I can see if you're ideas make any more sense in your own native tongue.

And frankly, though I'm loathe to admit it, I'm am absolutely fascinated in what the endgame to all of this will be.

Anonymous said...

As a first generation Chinese physician working in one of the best hospitals in America. I can give you statistics about men's dicks. Appraently, you took those girls' compliments as facts. How pathetic!
It's obvious to us (not only Chinese) that some of those foreign English teachers are losers in their own countries. In modern days, people give more respect to brains than dicks (not mention that your dick isn't so great). Because as human beings, we are the only intelligent creature in the world. Yes, China has a lot of issues. But from Mao to Yao, we have come a long way and we are still marching forward. But through you, it gradually dawns on me why your country is going down and fading away from the center stage of the world affairs.

HUGE PENIS said...

going down...

LITTLE PUSSY said...

I love huge penis.What about U?

fffffffffffffffffffffff said...

i said i'll leave.

wasting time, dont think so.

wasting space, maybe.

feel it's useless to argue with him about Mao and moral issues.

The devil can only be overcomed by
devil.

To be honest, ChinaBounder makes his point, chanting what CPC says will never convince him.

he is man, there is no doubt that he won't be wishing that his wife is not a virgin.

He said he does not care, but he did not say he is wishing she is not.

reading human's mind is fun. whatever language is indifferent.

cathy said...

Sex stories are sex stories. Too much comments on China society will ruin this blog site. Mr Bounder as a foreigner, he can have his understanding about China. But, this understanding is just confined in his environment. He is dealing poeple (especially women) in this very environment. If you have not spent 20 years in China, and traveled every corner in this huge country, you wont really know it.

Be fair; Be neutral. Be less-criticizing.

Mr. Bounder is a good writer. I enjoy reading his writings. I skip paragraphs of his comments on China and Chinese people. Mostly These comments look sharp and smart but ... somehow naive ... or, premature.

---------------------
The highlight is this little comment box, especially those vicious attacks on england, britain, the UK and (bless her) the queen. someone should have a word with these cruel posters and tell them that the majority of brits (especially those overseas) don't give a monkeys' about the UK's standing in the modern world, nor the sexual orientation of its present and former queens. while a foreigner insulting chairman mao may cause all sorts of righteous indignation in China, doing the same to the english queen would cause nothing more than a giggle of agreement because laughing at ourselves and our 'leaders' is what we do best, try it china. it would make you feel much better.

anyway, that's my one and only visit here. i will be off. good luck to all the lovers out there. all the ladies and all the psychology professors who need to think about how they can be more attractive to ladies (rather than trying to stop those pesky foreign men from being attractive to their 'sisters' and 'mothers').

10:58 AM

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I hope more Chinese would speak in this way instead of the thoughtless attack and curse.

Anonymous said...

posted at 6:50am, wow, that's so early. ChinaBounder must be a very hard-working blogger. Maybe he is bull-shitting on the pc aside while another chick is sleeping on his bed.

Foobear said...

I had so hoped that China had outgrown the racist xenophobia that has been so prevalent throughout its history.

This so-called "Professor" Zhang in a past life would have been one of the fists of righteous harmony, running around the countryside beheading Christian missionaries.

It's nice to see that mindless, knee-jerk, inflamatory, racist reactionary statements can still meet with such approval in China.

A white man is sleeping with Chinese women. Kill him!

All of you who are posting like this should take a deep look at yourselves and wonder if you would not be one of those people murdering innocent men, women, and children a hundred years ago.

Anonymous said...

I just want to seduce this bitch's wife, sisters, daughter and maybe his mother. I can also give them big satisfaction. Under my fucking, they certainly will be in a great happy. I have strong sex skill, and also big penis.

foobear said...

Fffff said:

Possible Briton's "smaller penis" won't satisfy the queen while huns', vandals' and goths' will.

please feel safe, there are more and more nationarized "bigger penis" will reisde in brion and maybe the next king or queeen will be more colorful than what now he or she is...


Ffff, your statements are incoherent and your arguments nonexistent. You should try to make a point.

he is man, there is no doubt that he won't be wishing that his wife is not a virgin.

This I think is the core of it. You're a sexist hypocrite, like the so-called "Professor" Zhang. Men can have as much sex as they want, including at brothels thinly disguised as barbershops, but women have to remain "pure" until marriage.

To answer your question, no, I'd greatly prefer an experienced woman than a "pure" women in my honeymoon bed.

Be honest, the real sin CB is committing is that he's talking about the truth, which is something that Chinese people have always been culturally uncomfortable with. Chinese people are more or less fine with their college students being promiscuous, what they are not comfortable with is people talking about it.

External harmony is more important than truth.

Anonymous said...

Its not about racist xenophobia. No one criticizes a foreigner who takes on a Chinese girl treats her well. There are a lot of blogs of foreigners who marries Chinese women, they are not subjected to any witchhunt.

The fact is Chinabounder can't go around into other people's country doing what he likes and anything he wishes.

Its like a murderer criticising a country for the lack of euthenesia laws.

Anonymous said...

一个外国人,在中国并没有做违法之事,却招致大家的抨击。
他不过把他的艳历讲出来给大家听。这又算什么?
说实话,那位上海的教授的确比较短见,而且视野很狭窄。心胸并不宽广。
我在澳洲,和几个当地女孩子睡过觉。我讲给我当地的朋友听,他们并没有对我有什么不好的印象。
这位英国人对中国的认识和体验还是比较深刻的。毕竟他是旁观者。
而且,可以看得出来,他对中国的关心程度胜过这里的很多中国人。
你们还要骂什么呢?????

Anonymous said...

theres laowai who has slept with far more chinese/japanese/asian women than u could ever imagine...but they wouldnt brag about it, well, maybe they will, but never on a online china blog where millions of easily-provoked hotheads chinamen can get access to. im not kiddin, ive read similar articles of Profession Zhang's on several websites/bbs already(oh they are in Chinese)...

chinabounder u r not all that smart than any of those small-penis monadic chinamen who u laughed at. i guess one thing u didnt learn from ur chinese sex partners ---- "枪打出头鸟"
theres rules, u play it, u obey it, otherwise u done.
never mind, u'll learn ur lesson real fast

Anonymous said...

我敢打赌,chinabounder对中国历史的认识比你们中很多愤青都要深刻。
还有他那种对事物的探究精神,是我们应该学习的。
中国人太情绪化。真的。缺乏西方人那种就事论事,穷根究低的作风。
还有,在对话中,保持绅士风度是中国人做不到的。亚里士多德说过,我虽然不同意你的说法,但是我要誓死捍卫你说话的权利。

至于那位上海教授的做法,的确太左。你那狭隘的民族主义贻害无穷。

Anonymous said...

Dear China Bounder:

U and Professor Zhang are doing exactly the same, accusing and cursing each other in ur own blogs. The difference is that Zhang stood out in daylight, so that you can so conveniently throw ur criticism on his profession, his school and indeed the whole Chinese education system.

I encourage u to go ahead to publicize ur true name, address and the name of the school u work for. U did such a great job breaking local moral code and bragging about it. U must be ready to take the risks.

Come on, freedom of speech and freedom of dick never come free in this “fucked-up” country. U knew that, u challenged that, now please take the responsibilities

ILIKETOWATCH

Anonymous said...

Chinabounder seems to be quite the intolerant fellow. He can't suffer even the most insignificant of cultural differences without exploding into mouth-frothing rage and lunatic ranting. Part of it is pure ignorance, such as his laughable interpretation of "Chinese compatriots", which he undoubtedly does not know is a weak translation of the Chinese word tongzhi, a word simply used to address a broad audience and completely devoid of the meaning he prescribed to it. Such is the way of the racist and the halfwit, not knowing much at all but perpetually finding evil in the actions of others where there sometimes is none.

毛澤東 said...

一個外國人,毫無利己的動機,把中國人民的性解放事業當作他自己的事業,這是什麽精神?這是國際主義的精神,這是民主自由的精神,每一個中國共産黨員都要學習這種精神。

……

我們要和一切資本主義國家的無産垃圾聯合起來,要和日本的、英國的、美國的、德國的、意大利的以及一切資本主義國家的無産垃圾聯合起來,才能打倒帝國主義,解放我們的民族和女人,解放世界的民族和女人。

……

一個人penis有大小,但只要有這點精神,就是一個高尚的人,一個純粹的人,一個有道德的人,一個脫離了低級趣味的人,一個有益于人民的人。

Anonymous said...

CHECK IT OUT …
http://whoischinabounder.blogspot.com/


1. Lives in Shanghai. (Came to China six years ago.)
2. From England. (Also spent time in Germany and Australia)
3. 34 years old (born 1971).
4. Teaches English in various universities.
5. Knows Jiao Tong university well.
6. Gives his msn/email to students at the end of classes.
7. Lives on or near Huai Hai Road.
8. Reasonably good spoken/written Chinese.
9. Email address: chinabounder@gmail.com (Spam it, if you wish.)
10. Employment in England has included: working for several years for H4H; working in an environmental pressure group at Westminster; working in a project related with mental health.


PLEASE ASSIST by adding the relevant blog passage to the below FOOTNOTES:


2.
LITTLE BLACK BOOK -- Friday, August 25, 2006
“… she reminded me of a girlfriend back in England … And this particular girlfriend back in England was a long term part of my life, and the years I spent in Germany and then Australia.”

3. LITTLE BLACK BOOK -- Friday, August 25, 2006 -- (as he wrote in the COMMENTS section)
“I love my parents because they have raised me, not because 34 years ago my Dad fucked my Mum.” ; and,
He has earlier stated he was born in the year of the dog – (1971 = yr of the dog).

7.
SEDUCING CHRISTINE #4 -- Saturday, August 19, 2006
“So after eating we walked along Huai Hai Road back to my place.”

8.
Six yrs in China + Frequent use of Chinese in blog.

9.
As recorded in his “Profile” for his website.

10. LITTLE BLACK BOOK -- Friday, August 25, 2006 -- (as he wrote in the COMMENTS section)
“I worked for several years for H4H, as well as in an environmental pressure group at Westminster. I also did a stint helping in a project related with mental health.”



CHECK IT OUT …
http://whoischinabounder.blogspot.com/

Anonymous said...

it turns out that sex and shanghai IS the MOST FUN blog ever! lol seriously i cant wait to see this disaster

Foobear said...

Yet another anonymous coward said:
theres rules, u play it, u obey it, otherwise u done.
never mind, u'll learn ur lesson real fast


Like I said, Chinese people do all the shady things, they just don't talk about them.

External harmony takes precedence over the truth.

It's this off and on relationship the Chinese have with truth that CB is taking issue with, IMO.

Mao is great, Mao is keen, let us all eat Mao ice cream.

Anonymous said...

If CB dun like it, then he can bloody leave the country.

Who does CB think he is? The Playboy of China? The Tom Paine of China?

Anonymous said...

It makes me laugh when some people talk about “anonymous cowards” here. Yeah, China Bounder is a very brave ID to open fire on Professor Zhang, who listed the real name, school and full contact address in his blog, if that’s what u mean

ILIKETOWATCH

Hesiem said...

Ridiculous amessages again. What are you guys thinking about? Those girls want to have fun and Chinabounder is scoring high... so what? It's happening everywhere in Shanghai, Beijing, Shenzhen, and elsewhere in China. People want to have fun. Let them have fun and live the kind of life they have chosen. And if you don’t like what’s in the content of this blog, then just read something else.

Anonymous said...

Well CB has offended every body in China more or less.

Every posts he will go about saying how flirting and seductive China girls are - Offend China girls

Then he will write how boring, unexciting, etc Chinese guys are - Offend Chinese guys

Then he will write how ignorant Chinese People are - Offend Chinese People.

That makes 2 times the offence.

And you wonder what's the fuss?

For heaven's sake, yes, even if he doesn't like the ways and habits and thinking of Chinese, give them some respect. You don't go around to other people's houses without showing them some face.

Sure people like to enjoy themselves. He have been in China for a long time, surely he knows that writing such things and indeed doing such things is like preaching Christianity to Afghans.

If he wants to be a hero, he can go ahead and be hounded out of the country, that is if he isn't abused physically in come capacity.

But I guess he is smart enough to cover his tracks here and there.

Jacob

Anonymous said...

我想先说一点:这个人对中国的历史和现状的评论确实有道理,但是这是很正常的,就像我们中的有些人照样可以对其他国家的历史和现状说得头头是道一样,所以这个人未必对英国的见解有如他对中国这一般深度.重要的是这个社会本来就是很复杂的,没有时间上的积累,是不可能有多么深的见解的.所以,请你chinabounder,好自为之吧!不管你说得有理无理,引起公愤总是不好的!Chinabounder,I really apprietiat ur courage and talent,but do behave urself and do not be evrybody's target.Ur arguments are really logical but u know what,I think if u r really laid back,please just go on with ur own business and do not behave like children doing such kind of quarrels with Mr. Zhang!If so I will doubt whether u r pleasing urself by ur blog.Be kind and fair.

Anonymous said...

to hesiem:
stupid subhumans deserve to die, and WE are not sorry for them.

Anonymous said...

"Part of it is pure ignorance, such as his laughable interpretation of "Chinese compatriots", which he undoubtedly does not know is a weak translation of the Chinese word tongzhi"

Bzzzzz. Wrong. Check the source article: http://blog.phoenixtv.com/user3/zhangjiehai/archives/2006/299423.html


今天我怀着无比愤怒的心情告诉大家一个外国流氓的故事,并号召各位国人同胞一起行动起来,将这个外国流氓清扫出中国。

It uses the term 同胞, which definately means compatriot, and is a direct appeal to all Chinese everywhere. I guess his Chinese is maybe not as laughable as yours.

ChinaBounder said...

fffffffffffffffffffffffffff said... BUT, why are you so hesitated to say that questions like how many times your mom, your wife had had been f..ked are no offender to you?


I am not hesitant in the slightest. Indeed I will spell it out for you. I would not care in the least if my mom fucked the whole rugby team before she got married; I would not care if my sister slept with a different man every night of the week; I would not turn a hair if my wife had had a string of lovers the length of the Great Wall before she met me. It is just sex.

And while I may indeed be a scumbag I am not, I hope, a hypocrite. How could I criticize any woman for living the way I live?

Sexual jealousy is all about control. I am not that insecure.

Anonymous said...

dude, interesting blog, though ill-advised. you need to leave china for a while. someone is paying to have you found and castrated. i am not kidding.

Anonymous said...

一个英国人,用英语把他在中国的艳史写出来,和一个中国人用中文把他在美国,澳洲,日本的艳史写出来有什么不同?
而后者,却并不招徕美国人,澳洲人,日本人的责骂。难道这些西方人比中国人更加宽容?
答案当然是的。
真不明白咋们中国人,为什么要死守那点可怜的自尊心?
咋们心里只想老外说自己的好,不容许别人说自己的坏。这叫什么心理? 那位心理学教授应该知道,这叫自卑心理在作祟!!!
这不是叫民族自豪,这叫民族自卑心里。
我在国外的大学课堂上学习时,只要老师讲到中国的问题时,马上有中国学生起来反驳。甚至写信投诉,说老师歧视中国!!!!!!
这至于吗?这个老外不过就和几个中国女人有过性行为,请问诸位,你难道没有和几个中国女人有性行为吗? 同样是人,为什么他就不可以和中国女人有性行为??????
狭隘的心里和短浅的目光。

Anonymous said...

有谁可以告诉我,这个英国人不可以在中国和几个女人上床的理由????
1。违法了吗? 没有
2。违反道德了吗? 表面上是违反了。可是在现在物欲横流的中国,有几个男人没有在外面玩过小姐,没有和几个女孩子有过性行为?为什么这个外国人上过中国女人便被大家一顿乱骂? 这是一种什么心理??那位心理教授应该清楚。中国女人只属于中国男人,如果中国女人嫁给外国人,中国男人的心里便不舒服--“肥水不流外人田嘛”。如果一个外国男人上个几个中国女人,那么这个外国男人便死定了。被骂得狗血喷头。

Anonymous said...

中国人真正要赢得别人的尊重,是靠自己的实力的。一个实力强大的国家是不怕任何人的评论或者说三道四。甚至不用去反驳它们。
中国的政治体制如何,中国的法制水平如何,中国的言论自由如何,中国的人权保障如何?这些问题才是最重要的问题。你们这些热血青年想过这些问题吗?
没有,现在的青年只关心怎么去当官发财,不关心这些问题了。还有,现在的青年很容易被民族主义激发起来而成为别人利用的工具。
中国自己的问题解决好了,才能成为世界一流的国家。而怎么去解决这些问题,需要我们大家去思考,去穷根究底。而不是在这里大喊大叫。

Anonymous said...

这是个傻比,

Anonymous said...

you sucker, white pig,go back to your fukcing britain.

Anonymous said...

hi, white fucker, you should pay for what you have done here.

Anonymous said...

能读懂英文的人都能看出,chinabounder是很了解中国的,不是一般的了解。他对中国的认识一针见血,远远超过你们这些短见的白痴。
我敢打赌,中国是没有希望成为一流国家,因为有你们这些无知,狂妄而短见的白痴。

因为有象张教授那样哗众取宠,浮躁狭隘的所谓知识份子。

可怜的中国,我的母亲,你何时才能真正超过西方?

Anonymous said...

Just a story. Why are you taking it so seriouse? Take it easy.

ffffffffffffffffffffffffff said...

chinabounder and foobear
are cunning guys, they try their best to sidestep.

I have to admit, you won't care your wife's, mom's affair. True, you did not lie, u don't care.

But my point is you care about it
inconsiously, from inside, from somewhere even you are not aware of.

For instance, you don't care what your wife eats. so long as she likes, you don't need to care.
if people ask you " what did your wife eat last night", you won't get rage as hyina. But if people
ask you "when was your wife f..ked by another man ?", i'm sure, you hyprocrite, will feel angry at least, you lose internal control,
you can't smile back and say "the day before we married", can you?

or let's take a practice,
say it to yourself, "my mother used to like eating fish", repeatedly, loudly, OR, better, to your lovers,
everyday, for 1 month.

then, say it to yourself, "my mother used be to f..cked by many", repeatedly, loudly, OR, better, to your lovers, everyday, for 1 month.

this is called aggretion test, is often to test whether a staement is really true.

if's easy to say you don't care, but really hard to deny your unconciousness.


so, nexttime, not only introduce your mother to your lovers by saying she lives in england, but also add that she was f..ked by many.

if you do so, that means u really don't care.

i think my point is clear.

man, it's easy to say and hard to act, it's now time to show your are brave enough, go and act. tell everybody your mom was f..ked by many.

Or, maybe she is a real virgin?
LOL.

James said...

Who's the anonymous poster who always comments on England being the land without a sunset and their kingdom being nothing compared to it's former glory ... How about china being the whore of the west for the last century? Opium War? Shanghai's French Concession (as well as other areas) ... your once great kingdom, maybe the greatest in all the world during it's time, is now just a slut to all the western powers. And ironically it's because of people like Zhang Jiehai . They lead people around under the guise of being an educator and take their minds off of the atrocities of the CCP.

People who post here with hate and ignorance in their hearts, calling for a manhunt and saying they will kill this man sicken me. It's sad. You're all slaves, and people like Zhang Jiehai hold the whip.

Anonymous said...

The scoundrel doesn't know chinese culture nor how to respect others. Though Zhang went a little far, It will not change the fact that the blogger is indeed a scoundrel. How about if I fuck many British girls and bluster? You could do so, you could remember the moments, but you can't shout it out. It will hurt others. Did your parents teach you how to respect others? Especially for your comments on the separation, it will break lay, though maybe you don't like it, u must obey it when you are in China.
After I comment above by the analysis, I will tell you how I feel about you ,one word, IDIOT!

Anonymous said...

It uses the term 同胞, which definately means compatriot, and is a direct appeal to all Chinese everywhere. I guess his Chinese is maybe not as laughable as yours.

Good job, clueless idiot. I meant to say tongbao, but at any rate tongzhi and tongbao are rougly the same and neither has the meaning he claimed. Thanks for trying.

Anonymous said...

像你这样的人渣,我很为你可悲.你精神绝对有问题,你不仅不懂得尊重中国人,更不懂得尊重妇女,这样的男人,不管你的皮肤和宗教,你都是个垃圾.因为你连起码的对妇女的尊重都没有.
你的祖先曾经那么野蛮的侵略过包括中国在内的国家,说实话,我觉得你这样人还是没有净化的野蛮人,我要是抓住你,不会和你说道理,我会直接杀了你.因为和你说道理根本没有用.
关于新疆和台湾,我想这两个地方是中国的一个部分的历史恐怕比你的祖先成为人类的历史还久.是不是部分政治人物要独立,就可以独立?那北爱尔兰是不是早就该独立了?你的观点太荒谬,我很生气,但是觉得无所谓,因为你很垃圾.
我不期待你悔恨你的言行,我对你没有一点希望也没有,可见我对你的态度.我对上帝只有一个企求,赶快把你带到地狱里去吧.

Anonymous said...

" ... your once great kingdom, maybe the greatest in all the world during it's time, is now just a slut to all the western powers"

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Wow, that’s the attitude, that’s the tone we knew. Thanks for reminding us who we really are, and who u really r, my lord.

ILIKETOWATCH

Anonymous said...

as a chinese australian, it pains me to see how humour-less the society is... jeez people, lighten up, water off a duck's back

however, i do feel you're being a little bit hypocritical. you criticise chinese people for not treating women on an equal footing, then you turn around and dont show much respect for the women in your life.

Anonymous said...

fffffffff please start posting in chinese, your english is shit. You could also try settling down a bit before you type and look at some tips about composing an arguement. Stream of consciousness is not a good method of creating and sustaining an arguement.

Anonymous said...

for what I've read, Chinabounder is nothing but a pathetic jerk, showing off how many girls you've screwed is your privacy, but hey, don't shit on the current culture in Shanghai, don't even try to criticize Chinese social norm and so on, don't pretend you got some level of sophistication to judge the the local situation, while you r just a guy lie for sex!

ffffffffffffffffffffffffff said...

I'll stop fucking queen and her mother. enough.

Here comes a question, in a American dominated world, what's the use of british accented language teacher?

Ppl really waste money on learning british dialect of English.

Anonymous said...

ffffff .... because it's not a dialect, it's an accent. The English language is the same no matter where it's spoken. Actually, many people enjoy hearing a slight british accent, which is the most anyone would pick up from a british teacher in China. Most likely they'd speak in broken Chinglish,in which I would guess you are very proficient.

coco said...

It is the funniest blog I’ve ever visit. It is going to be the no. 1 china blog. ChinaBounder, good job, man!

keep posting said...

I am wishing the comments and intimidations here won’t make you impotent. You had stopped posting your sex story in China. Keep fucking and be fearless!

Anonymous said...

you british rubbish, i am trying to have your great queen's small pussy, a pussy is a pussy only, no matter it belongs to your queen or your mom. take easy.

Anonymous said...

Have we caught him yet? Any update?

Vincent said...

ffffffffffffffffffffffffff I guess you should stop now. You are gasping with porno and non-sense. Your desperate attempt to denigrade someone else ends up in your own disgrace. You read too much porn and probably you should pay a visit to Professor Zhang Jiehai to let him help ease your schizo fit. A man who is confident in himself will never have to be loud to be heard. You are faking your own orgasm in this debate. Your ill-mannered fashion in presenting your argument really puts yourself to shame.

Anonymous said...

i don't know how many men your mother had slept with, maybe one of them is a huge hog, and that must be your father.

Vincent said...

That comment above really shows how ignorance breeds ignorance.

Anonymous said...

just here to comment on some of "our chinese 同胞" above:

to fffffffff: ur IQ is about as high as ur english proficiency. u just give us a perfect example of what a pathetic ignorant chinese guy could look like, thx for the demonstration.

to the one who posts in chinese: yeah...right...what u said is all true. china/chinese ppl itslef is far away from being perfect, yes, we all know that. thx for pointing out! but, its not a foreigner's place to judge them n criticize them in such a unacceptable manner. plus, u not really helping, u just make him a even more popular target...

fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff said...

Anonymous said...
ffffff .... because it's not a dialect, it's an accent.

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Anonymous, you might be too confident about your language.

No people in north america wants to speak british accent, statictically, they want to avoid
it at all since it's doing no good to them. (Career, business, money...)

Only those non-native-speakers will "admire" British accent.
When they join workforce, they will find it's that inconvienient
so they give it up sooner or later.

Remember, Briton, this is american world, not yours. American is more "attractive" to people now. shame on you of being less attractive.

ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff said...

it seems open-minded decent elegant english gentle men start to bark and bite now. Rage of hyina, is it the word i just learnt from the infamous english teacher?

Man, calm dowm, you are supposed to keep silent. Attacking is not a so-called "gentleman" way.

Vincent said...

ffffffffffff, let me tell you how short-sighted you are for idolising the Americans at the expense of others. Your knowledge of England and USA is only limited to the language or accent. Anyone who's been to Europe and America will not draw the same conclusion. If you travel some more, perhaps you will look at things differently.

ffffffffffffffffffffffff said...

Vicent, i'm like the blogger,
a scumbag.

not matter what i'm, i'm not coward and hypocrite while the blogger is.

ffffffffffffffffffffffffff said...

Vicent, will you deny american is more attractive and a winner in the world?

Why you guys have higher IQ than I
bother to learn a loser's language?

Sam said...

Dude, listen to me. I have been in GB for years and I am from Shanghai. Like you, I am also a fuck-seeker..I've slept with various girls..German,Finn,of course British. They said I am well-endowed and my dick looks fair big when it erects even compared with their white ex-boyfriends or partners and mine is even harder and hotter. And they are most keen on my prominent glans because many white guys' dicks have ridiculous pencil shape-fat body headed by a chickshit part. I don't know how credible their words are but I think they may think I am better than the guys they met before. I love white girls' soft hair,tempting curves and sinewy thighs but frankly I also miss Chinese girls' soft lip,smooth skin and unique natural aroma(not smell of irritative deodorant and perfume).

As same as fuck-seeker, there must be some common points between u and me. Why can we have sex with foreign girls? Do u think? uh? Because first we r foreigners who know their lanuage, so we are not foreign to them any more! They are interested in talking with us, when we use their language, they are exciting as if they see a monkey talking with human words! Second they didn't really really met with 'guys' like us, even they did, they will still fall on us because we are foreigners! We are curiosities to them! BUT remeber this is lucky for us and unfortunate for them, we have to admit that there are lots of Chinese guys better than u and British guys better than me. If they are willing or want to compete with us, we may have no chance to win.

BUT there is also differences between us. I enjoy in the intercourse with those girls and u indulge youself with your arrogance of your big dick and elation of conquests on several poor Chinese girls! U feel u are superior to Chinese guys because u speak English, u have big dick, u r a first-class flirt ..and so on. however in my sight, all things you have publicised is nihilty at all. Last but not least, I DO NOT make myself involved with married women! U should feel so lucky, I think committing adultery is illegal even in ur country. Thank ur stars, u r in nowdays China or u will be sunk into pools alive.I am a playboy but u ARE NOT. U ARE A ROGUE. I am a butterfly lingers around flowers and U are a contemptible maggot struggling in a bog.

So my advices:
1.U should thank ur knowledge of Chinese other than ur English, u attain those Chinese girls by means of Chinese rather than English.
2.U should thank ur mum who make u well-equipped in ur sexual life.
3.Shut up! And do not be as outrageous as ur colonist predecessors-take advantage of China and Chinese people and take these all for granted!
4.U r not superior to any Chinese let alone ur big cock.
5.U are not entitled to make remarks on matters of Xingjiang and Taiwan just as I never give any word on matters of N Ireland.

In a word, I PITY YOU!

Vincent said...

He's not as hypocritic as you think. I am here in Europe and I know how much some Chinese girls are constantly looking for sex in desperation with European guys. Just because they didn't advise their sexual encounter as openly as Chinarounder doesn't mean that those girls are better people. One of them I know happens to be a girl from Shanghai. She's a very good friend of mine. I don't have judgements about people who choose to have sex under adult concent. Remember all we have to do is to live and let live.

ffffffffffffffffffff said...

Vicent, I said i'll stop discussing about sex.

Your girl story does not interest me at all.


I'm a bad scumbag, yes I'm.
mmm....., not bad of being a scumbag though, enjoy the freedom of biting...

i'm also glad to see some elegant gentlemen get steamed up.

A French Reader said...

Keep up the good work !
I love to read you and to generate this kind of debate...
I'll wait for your next post.

Yours,

Anonymous said...

Possibly by saying "Zhang is more harmful to China" you are right. While he may be dangerous,he is an angry MAN besides being a scholar. I support his principle to you, maybe he can improve his words, deduction or whatever to you, but his attitude to you is right! (maybe his attitude to woman is not good and modern enough, that's another story)
流氓老外
But how about you? I assume you believe in God, a Christian. Are you conducting like your God or Bible told you? (having sex with a married woman?)

Vincent said...

ffffffffffffffffffff
Provocation is certainly an uninevitible form of debate. I understand that your young patriotic passion was in charge of your ability to reason. But provocation is only good when it comes with factual reasoning, not baseless accusations. But thank you for replying to my messages anyway. The one more thing that I would like you to do, and please do it in my most humble request, is to look at things in a broader perspective and with calm, each time your passion is about to sap your ability to make sound judgements.

So, what shoud this debate be about now? Foreigner having sex with Chinese women? Whether Tibet, Taiwan, Xinjiang is a part of China? Or penis sizes between white guys and the Chinese?

It's not hard finding an easy answer to the last question. The other two questions are the ones that truely privide a window of opportunity for us to research about what the core issue really is.

Can anyone tell me why Tibet, Xinjiang and Taiwan is part of China? I am not too familiar with the ancient and contemperary Chinese history. Wise me up!

Thank you in advance

Chinaman said...

This Chinabounder is quite observant of what is going on in Shanghai, China, in some regards. Shanghai has been, and will be, a very special place in China. For historical reasons (active foreign trade and foreign colony), Shanghai used to constitute 1/3 China's economy. It is less now, but sitll substantial. For the same reason, Shanghainese are the most racist people in China as far as I know. They discriminate by color, as well as by geographical location. Basically "Western is high, and non-Shanghai Chinese is low, and Shanghai is closer to the Western" has been a typical Shanghainese mentality. In front of their fellow Chinese from an "outside province", they discrimante against their fellow Chinese because they are not from Shanghai. In front of a white person, they discriminate against themselfves, because they themselfves are from Shanghai, and not from, say, London.

Within such a social context, to the young and naive, to be able to date a white man signifies fashion, dignity, unusual attraction, being special, and most important, elevated self-portrayed social ranking. It may also lead to monetary advantage and potential immigration status. This might in part explain why it is so easy for a midiocre white man like Chinabounder to find sex in Shanghai.

Anonymous said...

vincent, no one will waste time on u idiot..

Vincent said...

Anonymous said...
vincent, no one will waste time on u idiot..


Idiots are those who think that they know but knows nothing. I am not even challenging anyone. I beg for an answer. If you think everyone in the world should know about China as much as you do, well you are wrong. I've been living in Europe for a very long time and my knowledge about this country was not up to date. But I am eager to know. I think it's the beginning of an improvement.

Still if you want to engage a debate, you need to air your reasons.

Anonymous said...

Vincent, if u come from GB, tell us why N Ireland should be part of it? U first, come on, we r waiting....

Chinaman said...

The Chinabounder also displays tremendous ignorance. He traveled afar from the United Kingdoms to Shanghai, China, without a learning spirit. He has no problem to observe, to acquire data and facts. But he then jumps into conclusions he likes based on his culturocentric analysis. He sees as backwards and foolish whatever is different from from his British + sex-sseking mindset.

Hence his failure to appreciate and respect. Chinese have their own social values and norms. In terms sex and marriage, people seek monogamous relations. While sex is undoubtedly the most important component in a relation, other things like communication and mutual trust and respect are important, too. Incidentally, this, I hazard a guess, is also true among many Westerners.

His arrogance leads Mr. Chinabounder to dismiss this set of values and practice he sees in China as "dull" and "unimaginative". Chinese people are perfectly aware of the other alternative, it is just a matter of what an individual chooses to do. I am sure their are Chinese men screwing around in Shanghai or elsewhere, contributing to the prevalence STD worldwide.

ChinaBounder said...

Sam said…U are not entitled to make remarks on matters of Xingjiang and Taiwan just as I never give any word on matters of N Ireland.

What absolute nonsense. I am fully entitled to give comments on the matter, just as you are entitled to give comments on Northern Ireland if you take the time to familiarize yourself with its history. Of course you really should be talking about Southern Ireland, which has been bullied, abused and smashed by England for several centuries.

Your claim that I cannot talk about certain topics merely shows your ignorance and blinkered thinking. How can you say matters of human suffering are nothing to do with me? Learn to think like a world citizen, and leave your childish complacencies behind.

Vincent said...

As I google along, I found this on the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Taiwan :

Taiwan (including the Pescadores) was first populated by Austronesian peoples. It was colonised by the Spanish and later by the Dutch in the 17th century, when influx of Han people from the continent across the Taiwan Strait took place. In 1662, it became a base for Koxinga, a Ming loyalist. It was defeated by the Qing (Ch'ing) dynasty of China in 1683. The Qing Dynasty was forced to cede the island to Japan in 1895 after the 1st Sino-Japanese War. Then it was returned to the Republic of China (ROC) in 1945 after Japanese defeat in the 2nd World War. In 1949, after losing the Chinese mainland as a result of the Chinese civil war, the ROC government under the Kuomintang (KMT) withdrew to Taipei, which has been the seat of the government of the ROC ever since.

I am not from the UK. I am living in Denmark, a country where monarchic democracy started. I don't know too much about the UK history either. But as I google it again on the same site, I found the following:

Northern Ireland has been for many years the site of a violent and bitter ethno-political conflict between those claiming to represent Nationalists (who are predominantly Catholic and want it to be unified with the Republic of Ireland) and those claiming to represent Unionists (who are predominantly Protestant and want it to remain part of the United Kingdom). Unionists are in the majority in Northern Ireland, though Nationalists do represent a significant minority. The campaign of violence has become known popularly as The Troubles. The majority of both sides of the community have had no actual association with the violent campaigns waged, and most have not supported the violent representatives of their respective communities. Since the signing of the Belfast Agreement in 1998, many of the major paramilitary campaigns have either been on ceasefire or have declared their "war" to be over.

Berkhut said...

Hey man, don't be too harsh, as I will thank DongNanXiBei forever for letting me know about your place :D

Man Im myself someone in your situation - when it comes to China, not women actually - and I can tell you sometimes some of your words simply stuck. Ok Im not especially a fan about your shagging stories, I am more interested in the way your are witnessing Chinese habits - and on this point, as I may add this for all Chinese readers over here, contesting Chinabounder is pointless. You may not like what he says, he may prove wrong, rude, biased, insulting sometimes, generalizing often, but well that's what we call freedom of speech, let him go and squeeze girls. If you want to struggle with him, do your own blog ;)

ChinaBounder, good luck for the future!

Anonymous said...

To Vincent if you want a serious answer: There are actually 2 versions of the answer. For the longer one, I can give you a dozen page of texts showing how these three places are part of China. I consider the conflicts among them as something like civil war just like the one in US before.

The shorter version is pretty simple. It is the reflection of a country's power. If you don't think they are parts of China, try separating them and see the results. China gov and most people are willing to defend that with their lives on their free will. After all, there are always two voices in any part of this world. No one can pursuade the other with only words.

OK. Back on my thoughts on the 'real' business here:) I do not think the bounder is an devil. It is nothing but normal sex activities between or among men and women. What I really care about is the way many people judging things here. What you saw or what you hear only represents a small part of the whole view. So try not judging China with partial views (including west so called civilazition),which may be regarded as insults.

Vincent said...

Thank you for your answer about Taiwan. Before I begin to tell what I think, I think I have to say sorry to Chinarounder if I am taking up too much space here.

The shorter version is pretty simple. It is the reflection of a country's power. If you don't think they are parts of China, try separating them and see the results. China gov and most people are willing to defend that with their lives on their free will. After all, there are always two voices in any part of this world. No one can pursuade the other with only words.


You still fail to convince me that Taiwan is part of China, for obvious reasons.

Anonymous said...

Vincent, you see this is the point here. No one is necessary to convince the other. I saw the word you pasted from WIKI and you think that is correct. I saw many other documents showing that is wrong. Where is the standard? no. The real truth already buried a long time ago. The only way to resolve this is to see who is stronger, which is the basic pricinpal of the ancient and modern country relationship. And the most important thing is all or most people living on Taiwan now are Chinese. They or their parents are from mainland. I think that is why we think it is a civil war.

And again, I think China gov and most people are willing to spill all their blood on resolving this. Any other country are willing to do that? It is a strange thing about Chinese if you want to know. I think we like to challenge each other when their is not a common enemy, which always raises a huge power from the people. Intefering Taiwan issue will make it the right common enemy.

Sorry to bounder for taking your space on this topic.

Chinaman said...

I am also amazed by how easily this Mr Chinabounder from UK becomes complimented. Chinese people use compliments in their everyday life, as a sort of social lubricant. Some compliments can become flattery, and none would take those to too seriously.

Apparently girls have extended this practice to their sexual life. As a Chinese man growing up in China, I have a few first-hand experience with that. When I was complimented by the first girl I went to bed with, I was as flattered as Mr Chinabounder is. She said to me that my penis was huge, and I really last. That made me feel really good and work really hard on her in bed. But then I discovered when going to a public bath facility that I was actually not especially well endowed to that end. I was just about the average. Then my second and third girl friends both told me similar things. I was glad that they said that FOR me, but did not take it seriously at all. I don't think they lied. They were happy with me, they wanted to express their affection and to please me. In the mean time it must be true that I did not perform too bad in bed to them to praise me. That's all.

Now coming to the size of condoms. I live in north America now. I find the regular-sized condoms here suit my size quite well. They are a little tight when I put them on, but they wear just fine and won't fall off or break. The XL condoms here are only slightly looser, but I have no problem wearing them. My experience (a few years back) with the condoms in China is similar. It is incredible to read the part where Mr Chinabounder jumped up and down in Shanghai to look for a condom he could wear. One of the following things must be true: either my penis has grown in size over the years, OR the "average" British cock is significantly larger than the north American ones.

An Oversea Chinese said...

To fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff:

你个傻逼连话都说不利索, 请你别在这丢人现眼了. 追着别人屁股后面想羞辱人家结果只是自取其辱.

这位兄弟不就是操了几个姑娘然后在这吹点牛逼吗? 都是你情我愿, 非嫖非奸, 我怎么就想不明白那傻逼上海心理学教授为何会这么义愤填膺呢? 没有人规定中国逼只能中国人操吧? 没有人规定每人只能一辈子只操一口逼吧?

张教授, 你如果真要是想做卫道士的话, 建议去上海任何洗头房或二奶村, 那里是买和卖的都有, 牛逼如你的人肯定大有用武之地.

To Chinabounder:

Dude, your blog is one of the best visualizing the true life of an expatriate in Shanghai. I myself have numerious expat friends there and, more or less, each of them boasts similiar experience as yours. The infamous 3-So (so young, so beautiful, so available) fits squarely on some Chinese girls on whom none of the idiots here is in a position to judge. After all, we are living in a free world, even in China, one-night- stand is both legally and socially acceptable and more and more in vogue.

Most of the commentators here seemed quite furious about your political stand. I must admit in this respect you have no chance to win over those hotheads. Just forget it and keep your own cool. There are enough Chinese who would agree on 99% of your political opinions. Maybe besides fucking around, you should really try your charm to establish some intelligent relationship with those Chinese men.

One last word, there were a couple precedences that outraged Chinese net mobs stormed the lives of alleged "immorals". Imagine the scenes that angry crowd during the last anti-Japanese riot in Shanghai indiscriminately attacked anybody or anything remotely related to Japan. So, be careful in revealing anything concrete in your blog, and please keep the show going!!!

Anonymous said...

What I find so interesting about China is that it is an incredibly xenophobic, racist country, yet its women love foreigners. I am Japanese, and we all know how much the crazies in China hate us, but I experienced so many girls wanting to be with me, it was hilarious. If Japan is so bad, how come your women wanted me so much?

"You dress so well and are polite too!"

"You're so much better looking than the Chinese."

What would be even better than CB is if I wrote about my exploits in China. Haha. China is a pussy paradise.

CBC said...

If you think that Chinabounder sucks, then make more ppl know about him.

If you think what ChinaBounder wrote is acually what happened in Shanghai and China, and hope more ppl to aware about it.

Translate it into Chinese.
send it to chinabounder.chinese@gmail.com
We will post it over
http://chinabounderinchinese.blogspot.com/index.html

Anonymous said...

上面那位哥们说打砸抢,其实这事儿就是这么回事。全世界各地都有。摊到中国人头上也一样。记得中国鞋店被砸吧?为啥?抢了他们自己国家人的饭碗呗。教授之所以这么义愤也是同样的心理。这其实是件太正常的事了。说明不了中国人弱智,也说明不了中国人多高尚。

Vincent said...

You will have to do your best to try to convince not only me, but other people who doubt that Taiwan is part of China. From what you say:

The only way to resolve this is to see who is stronger, which is the basic pricinpal of the ancient and modern country relationship. And the most important thing is all or most people living on Taiwan now are Chinese. They or their parents are from mainland. I think that is why we think it is a civil war.

Your argument sounds really similar: Blood is thicker than water. We are all Chinese of origin. Well, a lot of people from Singapour, Malaysia and Thailand are Chinese too (usually from where I orginally came from in south china.), but one ethnicity doesn't necessary have to limited in one country.

On a side note, I have an uncle in Taiwan. He was drafted unvoluntarily from the Mainland and he used to fight for the Guomindang. The last time he went to see the mainland was in 1988 when he was 70. We haven't heard from him ever since. The family tie was just not there anymore. He had his own family and moved on. The second generation grew up in Taiwan in was completely oblivious of any connections they had with China Mainland.

an oversea chinese said...

cbc, don't you have anything better to do? why do you want to ruin the party here?

If you are so helpful, why don't you try to mobilize a crowd to persuade the Chinese government to un-block this site so that anyone inside China can access here?

Anonymous said...

To the japanese above: Remember this: It is not Japanese is so bad actually. It is Chinese hates Japanese that make you so bad. Or maybe most Chinese if you count the girls sleeping with you as not hating you.
China is not xenophobic or racist. Otherwise, there won't be any Japanese goods or foreigners walking on the street. All these feeling you got is because they are just for Japanese.

an oversea chinese said...

"上面那位哥们说打砸抢,其实这事儿就是这么回事。全世界各地都有。摊到中国人头上也一样。记得中国鞋店被砸吧?为啥?抢了他们自己国家人的饭碗呗。教授之所以这么义愤也是同样的心理。这其实是件太正常的事了。说明不了中国人弱智,也说明不了中国人多高尚。 "

西班牙人打砸抢说明了西班牙人弱智, 中国人打砸抢说明了中国人弱智, 这值得争论吗?

阁下的意思是CB抢了张教授的女人? 要是这样的话也他妈的是不正常, 抢了你的女人也没必要到网上来装逼吧?

fffffffffffffffffffffffff said...

An Oversea Chinese,

i dont care too much about your howl.


since you "are" chinese, i will suspend attacking you at the moment.

Take care.

BTW, are u living in loser's country?

Anonymous said...

To Vincent:
I am not convincing you or anybody. I am just trying to let you know what the mainland people think about this matter,if I may say I reprents a common thought.

And the key point I am talking about is NOT the family tie. It is the Power of the country. Do you think why Mr. Bush can invade Iraq and nobody can do anything about it?

It is a cruel world right? We may dislike it but have to admit it. The mainland simply cannot allow Taiwan to separate. It is not a question how many people on Taiwan want, how many do not want. If there is no reason at all, you may still call it an invasion. But don't forget there are still history reasons and there are still people on Taiwan want to see they are together.

Personally speaking, without the Korea war, there will be any Taiwan issue to discuss here. What do you think about that? Reality.

an oversea Chinese said...

fffffffffffffffffffffffff

你有话就请用中文说, 看你的JB英语难受.

CB是不是LOSER我不知道, 至少他上过的中国女人比我多, 而且他上的也比我容易, 又不用花钱, 这点上不服不行.

我住哪儿跟在这的讨论有JB关系?

Anonymous said...

我觉得你还真说对了. 我们国人的传统不就是这么?中国女人只能中国人干. 老外干了就是大逆不道. 这不是弱智,这是传统. 不管你觉得对不对, 半数以上的国人肯定是这么想的.

Loki on the run said...

Anonymous said:


China is not xenophobic or racist. Otherwise, there won't be any Japanese goods or foreigners walking on the street. All these feeling you got is because they are just for Japanese.


No? Then how come I get called 鬼佬 by Chinese people even in western countries?

How about the attitudes of some Chinese towards Indians and others ...

Vincent said...

I know your comment is fairly common amongst the Chinese population, and I thank you for reiterating it.

But if you merely articulate what everyone has already known without backing it up with solid argumentation, it will just go on to show how untennable those arguments are. Remember we are engaged in a civilsed debate, not a rumbling of indoctrination. I know you are a very smart person with the breath of thoughts you are trying to articulate, but you've got to let circumstantial evidence help back up your show.

fffffffffffffffffffffff said...

i know why you "看你的JB英语难受.",
because you are speaking a loser's language.

as for woman, as your admired lord, secondary citizen in Britan,
, ...., i don't want to continue.


it does not matter how many you fuck, you are a less attractive mankind for sure, shame on you of being less attractive, because losers thought infects you too much, you forget how to win.

I do see a loser covered by losers.

by looking at your northen china accent in your native language, i can imagine what your british accent sounds like.


god bless america.

Anonymous said...

To Vincent:

Well. As I said, there is not pursuading here and arguing about reasons or evidences is for classroomn debating, which never has true/false in its nature:) As for the real world, let the strength speaks for itself.

Vincent said...

To Vincent:

Well. As I said, there is not pursuading here and arguing about reasons or evidences is for classroomn debating, which never has true/false in its nature:) As for the real world, let the strength speaks for itself.


What strength? I hope it's not military strength.

Anonymous said...

To Loki:

If you think 鬼佬 indicates racist, then no country on the earth is clean. Any country without such words describing foreigners?

How this word comes? When west people first came into China, the appearance and color is so different that is is more like some monsters in Chinese legend. Then this word is created to represent them.
If you feel any unformtable feeling when people call you that, I think it is not from the word itself but the attitude that the individual to you.

I don't know what attitudes you mean towards Indians. For me, there are only conflicts in the country interests. I have to admit many Chinese think other people are not smart enough as Chinese. Does that make Chinese racist?
Even for Japanese, many people like their tech and products but still hate them because of the obvious history reason. Does that make Chinese racist?

Anonymous said...

Bangkok/Boulder, Colorado - An American schoolteacher accused of murdering a 6-year-old beauty queen in a notorious 1996 US case has told police in Thailand that the girl died accidentally from an overdose of chloroform he administered before raping her.

John Mark Karr, 41, was arrested Wednesday in the Thai capital and was expected to be extradited within days to the US to face charges in the case. Police had been tracking him for several months following email exchanges he conducted with a journalism professor who made several documentaries on the JonBenet Ramsey case.

A senior Thai police official told Deutsche Presse-Agentur dpa that under questioning in Bangkok, Karr said he had chloroformed the child so that he could rape her in the basement of her home.

'He told us that after sex he realized he had accidently killed her,' said General Suwat Tumrongsiskul, director of immigration police. 'He also told us that they loved each other. She was 'his' beauty queen.'

In a press conference in Boulder, Colorado, where the murder took place, District Attorney Mary Lacy insisted there was still a lot of work to be done on the case.

'John Karr is innocent until proven guilty,' she said, reciting a familiar presumption of US courts.

Karr, who for years had travelled around Asia teaching English, appeared nervous when presented Thursday to a crowded US-Thai press conference.

'I loved JonBenet. She died accidentally,' he said.

Karr has been in Thailand for two months and recently applied for a job as an English teacher.

He was apprehended after an investigation involving 'lots of people, lots of agencies working for a long time,' said Ann Hurst, attache for the US Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency.

She said he had been tracked for three weeks before his arrest Wednesday by Thai police, working with the US Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI). Karr will be extradited to Colorado within days to face investigation and trial on charges of premeditated murder, kidnap and abuse of a minor, she said.

When officers seized him in his small, central Bangkok apartment he rebutted the charge of first-degree murder.

'It was not first-degree. It was second degree. It was an accident,' General Suwut quoted Karr as saying when he was arrested.

The murder of JonBenet in Colorado caused a sensation in the US when initial police suspicions fell on her wealthy parents, John and Patsy Ramsey. Despite years of suspicion, however, no solid evidence was ever presented against them.

Before her death, the child had been entered in several beauty contests by her former beauty queen mother and businessman father. This prompted one US newspaper to describe her as 'a painted baby, a sexualized toddler beauty queen.'

A score of books, including one by the parents, have been written in the last decade about the crime and its aftermath.

Karr was wanted in Sonoma County, California, for failing to appear in court in December 2001 on five counts of possession of child pornography, according to the Bay City News Service. His wife, reportedly the mother of his three children, divorced him after he was charged, according to the Petaluma Argus-Courier.

He was employed for a few months as a substitute elementary school teacher in California in 2001, records show. His resumes subsequently list teaching jobs in Asia, Europe and Latin America, according to the Rocky Mountain News.

Karr's brother, Nate Karr, insisted that his brother was innocent but that he might have become a suspect after doing 'in-depth' research for a book he proposed to write about men who commit crimes against girls, including JonBenet.

'This is the only possible way that we think that he could have been brought into this, because, of course, there is going to be no physical evidence,' Nate Karr told Fox News.

The Ramsey family attorney, Lin Wood, told MSNBC that the arrests had vindicated a family who had been enormously abused by the justice system and popular opinion. Wood said that the family has given evidence about Karr to the police, though it remains unclear if they knew the suspect.

The mother, Patsy Ramsey, died of ovarian cancer in June.

'Patsy was aware that authorities were close to making an arrest in the case, and had she lived to see this day, would no doubt have been as pleased as I am with today's development almost 10 years after our daughter's murder,' John Ramsey said in a statement.

Anonymous said...

To Vincent:
I want to let you know: I do not like resolving this through military actions and I believe most Chinese do not either.

Don't you think the diplomacy or economy strengh already keep Taiwan from separating?

And still, I think military is a must when it comes to that like the leader on Taiwan made the decision to separate. Is that unaccepteable?

We never want wars and we never fear wars. (If you want to continue on the 'never want wars' part, let us stop as no one has the truth)

andrea said...

wow.. this is kind of crazy retarded...
some dude fucked some girls....
there.. thats all there is.
we r people and we fuck.
i'm glad this english guy is getting laid at least.
i have gotten laid in 2 months, twice! ... i'm increasingly feeling like a girl from sex and the city.
i cannot wait to get back to america and see my boyfriend again.

Anonymous said...

涉嫌10年前谋杀“小美后”的凶手——美国教师约翰·马克·卡尔,8月16日在泰国落网。据最新消息,卡尔在泰国已承认他曾对“小美后”进行过性侵犯。而这样一个“色狼”,被捕前在泰国的职业竟是英语教师。而恰恰是卡尔被捕前后,东南亚又有多起外籍教师性侵犯儿童的案件曝光,而且案情十分相似,令人不寒而栗。

  几个月前,一名澳大利亚人被控猥亵儿童在印尼被捕,他向警方坦白说,至少为50个少年拍了色情录像带。今年6月,一名53岁的美国外教在金边被捕,警方指控他强奸和虐待了多名未成年少女。8月初,柬埔寨警方又抓获了两名澳大利亚公民,罪名是与幼女发生性关系,他们事发前一直在柬埔寨当英文老师。

  有分析认为,东南亚接连出现“色狼”外教,与当地的英语热有很大关系。“英语热”增加了东盟国家对英语教师的需求。有美国媒体指出,不光是东南亚,包括日本和韩国在内的亚洲的英语外教圈中,充斥着流动人口,教外语是这些“背包族”在其旅行当中最简单的赚钱方式,这些“背包族”里不乏在他们自己国家作奸犯科之后,跑到别的地方躲藏的人

Anonymous said...

Teachers of English get little screening
The Associated Press

Published: August 21, 2006


BANGKOK The English-teaching circuit in Asia is filled with transients. It is a floating network of backpackers looking to make quick cash while traveling the world, recent college graduates in search of overseas experience and those on the move with something to hide.

In a region that hungers to learn the language that is equated with opportunity and success, the demand for native- speaking English teachers far outweighs supply in many countries.

Turnover is high and screening is minimal at many language centers, opening windows for many candidates with phony credentials or even those suspended from teaching at home - like the suspect in the JonBenet Ramsey murder case, John Mark Karr - to skip unnoticed into classrooms across Asia.

"A telephone interview, a résumé and a picture of the candidate is all we have," said Kim Soo Ho, an official at Englishwork, a teacher recruiting agency in Seoul, South Korea. "It is physically difficult to check the background of people when they are overseas."

Karr, 41, taught for a few months in South Korea in 2002, Honduras in 2005 and at schools in Bangkok this year before his arrest last week by Thai officials. He has said he was with JonBenet when the 6-year-old child beauty queen died 10 years ago in her Colorado basement.

According to an online résumé, Karr also worked as a private teacher and caregiver in Germany, the Netherlands and Costa Rica beginning in 2001. In April of that same year, he was arrested in California for possession of child pornography and vanished after serving six months in jail. His teaching license was suspended a year later.

Convicted sex offenders from various countries have popped up in Asia as English teachers. Earlier this month, an Australian who taught English in Indonesia was arrested and accused of molesting street children. He told the police he had videotaped at least 50 teenage boys.

Another Australian teacher who faced sex allegations at home committed suicide last week in Indonesia, where he also was accused by human right activists of abusing children.

"It's a very traditional pedophile strategy," said Bernadette McMenamin, head of the Australian-based advocacy group Child Wise. "If you want to sexually abuse children, what better job would there be?"

She said that foreign teachers with criminal histories can easily stay beneath the radar because background information is not readily shared between countries, making the screening process difficult for even the most prestigious institutions.

Karr taught first grade for two weeks in June at one of Bangkok's finest schools before he was fired for being too strict.

"People who are offenders of all sorts are being able to move anonymously across borders," said Carmen Madrinan, executive director of Bangkok- based Ecpat International, a network of organizations working to fight commercial sexual exploitation of children.

She said that the demand for English skills in Asia, especially in countries like Thailand where tourism drives the economy, puts pressure on schools to fill job vacancies quickly.

But she said that administrators are stuck in the middle of a system with no simple solutions because there is no easy way to verify foreign applicants' credentials or criminal records.

Fake teaching documents also are cheap and easy to obtain in Asia, and jobs are there for the taking. For example, last year in Japan, there were 4,500 foreign language schools with nearly 14,000 teachers. South Korea had 12,000 native English speakers teaching at private schools as of May.

And Web sites post openings at schools in countries throughout the world.

Some local language schools, eager to capitalize on the lucrative business, also have questionable reputations, with centers opening for a few months, then moving unexpectedly or even shutting down without notice.

Education officials in Thailand have told local media they will work with schools and the police to tighten screening procedures. But Madrinan said that even in the United States, where many safeguards are in place, sexual predators continue to slip through the cracks.

"It's a complicated issue," she said. But when there are repeat offenders or offenders of a criminal nature, "then you have to ask: 'Should they be allowed to leave in the first place?'"

BANGKOK The English-teaching circuit in Asia is filled with transients. It is a floating network of backpackers looking to make quick cash while traveling the world, recent college graduates in search of overseas experience and those on the move with something to hide.

In a region that hungers to learn the language that is equated with opportunity and success, the demand for native- speaking English teachers far outweighs supply in many countries.

Turnover is high and screening is minimal at many language centers, opening windows for many candidates with phony credentials or even those suspended from teaching at home - like the suspect in the JonBenet Ramsey murder case, John Mark Karr - to skip unnoticed into classrooms across Asia.

"A telephone interview, a résumé and a picture of the candidate is all we have," said Kim Soo Ho, an official at Englishwork, a teacher recruiting agency in Seoul, South Korea. "It is physically difficult to check the background of people when they are overseas."

Karr, 41, taught for a few months in South Korea in 2002, Honduras in 2005 and at schools in Bangkok this year before his arrest last week by Thai officials. He has said he was with JonBenet when the 6-year-old child beauty queen died 10 years ago in her Colorado basement.

According to an online résumé, Karr also worked as a private teacher and caregiver in Germany, the Netherlands and Costa Rica beginning in 2001. In April of that same year, he was arrested in California for possession of child pornography and vanished after serving six months in jail. His teaching license was suspended a year later.

Convicted sex offenders from various countries have popped up in Asia as English teachers. Earlier this month, an Australian who taught English in Indonesia was arrested and accused of molesting street children. He told the police he had videotaped at least 50 teenage boys.

Another Australian teacher who faced sex allegations at home committed suicide last week in Indonesia, where he also was accused by human right activists of abusing children.

"It's a very traditional pedophile strategy," said Bernadette McMenamin, head of the Australian-based advocacy group Child Wise. "If you want to sexually abuse children, what better job would there be?"

She said that foreign teachers with criminal histories can easily stay beneath the radar because background information is not readily shared between countries, making the screening process difficult for even the most prestigious institutions.

Karr taught first grade for two weeks in June at one of Bangkok's finest schools before he was fired for being too strict.

"People who are offenders of all sorts are being able to move anonymously across borders," said Carmen Madrinan, executive director of Bangkok- based Ecpat International, a network of organizations working to fight commercial sexual exploitation of children.

She said that the demand for English skills in Asia, especially in countries like Thailand where tourism drives the economy, puts pressure on schools to fill job vacancies quickly.

But she said that administrators are stuck in the middle of a system with no simple solutions because there is no easy way to verify foreign applicants' credentials or criminal records.

Fake teaching documents also are cheap and easy to obtain in Asia, and jobs are there for the taking. For example, last year in Japan, there were 4,500 foreign language schools with nearly 14,000 teachers. South Korea had 12,000 native English speakers teaching at private schools as of May.

And Web sites post openings at schools in countries throughout the world.

Some local language schools, eager to capitalize on the lucrative business, also have questionable reputations, with centers opening for a few months, then moving unexpectedly or even shutting down without notice.

Education officials in Thailand have told local media they will work with schools and the police to tighten screening procedures. But Madrinan said that even in the United States, where many safeguards are in place, sexual predators continue to slip through the cracks.

"It's a complicated issue," she said. But when there are repeat offenders or offenders of a criminal nature, "then you have to ask: 'Should they be allowed to leave in the first place?'"

Anonymous said...

English Teacher in Cambodia sentenced to 10 years


Due to the actions of one English teacher in Cambodia, disrepute has been brought to the ESL industry.



Damien Walker, 26, an Australian English teacher in Cambodia was arrested and charged with debauchery in December and sentenced yesterday to 10 years in prison.



Walker has not only brought shame to himself and his family, but also put a dent in the repuatation of English teachers working abroad.



The Sydney Morning Herald states:

Walker had been teaching at the Light of Hope Children's Village, a school for orphaned and abandoned children in the capital Phnom Penh run by Christian education group International Children's Care (ICC) Australia, based in Warragul, Victoria.



English teachers deal with a large range of student ages. From infants to senior citizens. Let's keep the slate clean and remain professional at all times both in and out of the classroom and adhere to local laws.

an oversea chinese said...

楼上的傻逼, CB就操了几个女的就是"色狼"了? 你们家人都是和尚尼姑吧?

另外, 建议你再去GOOGLE一下, KARR只是一个幻想狂, 跟JONBENET的谋杀案没有狗屁关系.

Anonymous said...

(AP) - SAN JOSE, Costa Rica-John Mark Karr bragged to his landlord's wife that sexually he was "like a wolf," and said he "liked little boys and girls" when he worked in Costa Rica as an English teacher, his former housemates told The Associated Press.

Karr, now jailed in the United States after his arrest in Thailand, faces a Colorado warrant for the 1996 murder of 6-year-old JonBenet Ramsey.

Vincent said...

It has become increasingly annoying for me to read about phrases like this in your comment: "If you want to continue on the 'never want wars' part, let us stop as no one has the truth".

You are very resigned to what you think is too remote for you to have an impact on. "Because most people think about it that way, that means I will have to think about it that way too." We are trying to induct to arrive at some conclusion; but your arrogance and cynicism have not only marred the tone of the debate, but typify the fatalistic trend of thoughts most Chinese I met possess.

Where is your ability to question, to doubt and to argue? True wisdom comes from endless pursuit of truth. If you fall by the wayside too soon too often, you will be surprised at how much you fail to attain under a quick settlement.

Anonymous said...

COFFEEVILLE, Ala. - An English teacher at a small Alabama high school has been charged with having sex with at least four students and allegedly involving one in a plot to kill her husband.

Officials released few details but said the husband, a gym teacher who taught at the same school last year, was unharmed.

School officials were first tipped off to concerns about the teacher in 2004 by an unsigned letter accusing Sharon Linton Rutherford of sleeping with students, Clarke County Schools Superintendent Gerald Stephens said.

Life of a Banana said...

Calm down folks. This is only a blog. There are more important things in life to worry about.

Anonymous said...

In recent months we have seen a spate of reports about English teachers running into trouble with the authorities in the countries where they work.

Dear all,

The alleged offences range from infringement of visa and work permit regulations to far more serious charges of drug use. The penalties the teachers face may be deportation at one end of the spectrum to lengthy prison sentences, or worse, at the other end.

All this is obviously alarming to both prospective teachers and the schools that employ them. Young people in unfamiliar surroundings are vulnerable to those who wish to exploit them. They may unwittingly break local visa or employment rules or acquire fake papers. Of course, others will do so deliberately and for these the penalties they face are the consequences of their own foolishness. But what responsibility does the employing school have to teachers in respect of local visa and employment laws? In my view they have a duty to act in two ways.

First they should keep up-to-date with these laws in their own country and ensure that they pass on accurate information to any teachers they wish to employ. Secondly, they have a duty to inspect the teacher’s papers to ensure that they are in order. If they have any doubts, they should raise the problem at once and, if necessary, accompany the teacher to the appropriate departments to find out exactly what needs to be done. Both teachers and employers must act in good faith and do their utmost to comply with regulations.

Beyond that, there are steps that are advisable for a school to take to protect teachers and their own reputation. For example, if it is available they could take out insurance to cover the legal costs of any disputes. This will allow them to appoint lawyers to represent the teachers if necessary. They could also try to establish a good relationship with the local police and the local officials responsible for enforcing visa and employment regulations so that an atmosphere of trust and cooperation is built up.

Anonymous said...

Significantly, almost no writer who has worked in this industry - the list includes the writers Tim Parks, Matthew Kneale, Peter Robb and J K Rowling - has a good word to say about it. The definitive description of the TEFL bum's predicament is surely a passage at the beginning of Cara Massimina, a novel by Tim Parks in which Morris Duckworth, a young English teacher in Verona, is led to crime and, eventually, madness by his attempt to escape from the trap that his life has become:

No, it was awful. He was living from hand-to-mouth, from one day to the next, one month to another, week in week out. From the point of view of career, social advances, financial gain, the last two-and-a-half years had been completely wasted. More that that, they had left him physically exhausted and mentally addled by all these stupid lessons, besieged by boredom and mediocrity . . . He had reached the end of his tether . . . What was a language teacher in the end? A nobody. A mere failed somebody else.

Sad words, but all too true - and ones that should be inscribed above the entrance of every English language school.

Anonymous said...

the privacy of some allegedly irresponsible foreign English teachers is being outrageously, and possibly illegally invaded on the website of a group called the Korea Foreign Teachers Recruiting Association (www.kftra.co.kr).

The association blacklisted some 20 foreign teachers who they say caused trouble or who were accused of some manner of wrongdoing. The alleged crimes of these individuals included what is described as "doing a midnight run" - leaving suddenly without notice, arriving for class drunk, and even of sexually harassing students. The latter being an extremely serious charge, and one that should not be made lightly or without evidence.

"The website was launched in February because there are many illegal foreigners in Korea that are not qualified to teach English here," said Choi Hyeok, president of the association. "Even though a great number of educational institutes were experiencing similar difficulties, we didn't have a place that can share this information."

Until Thursday of last week the blacklist enabled anyone who had prior access to the private details of a teacher, to list that individual's full name, passport number, birthdate, photo and their alleged crime on the association's website.

After The Korea Herald challenged the operators, the association deleted the passport numbers and birthdates of the teachers.

However, the teacher's names and their alleged crimes are still being published. By law, even the names of suspects in high profile criminal cases are protected until they are indicted by prosecutors.

For example, a legal expert told The Korea Herald, the full names of the French couple who prosecutors have identified as the parents in the now well-known case of the 'freezer babies' were kept private for more than three weeks before their lawyer gave the media permission to release their identities.

Some, or perhaps even all of the teachers on the list may have caused problems at their academies, or so called "hagwons" in Korea, as claimed in the posts. On the other hand, they may be completely innocent, and simply the target of a disgruntled hagwon director or a student with bad grades who bears a grudge. The fact that the people who contributed to the blacklist can hide behind anonymous user-names means none of the claims can be checked for accuracy before they are viewed by the general public. This immediately calls the process into serious question on both legal and moral grounds.

In an attempt to address the situation, last Wednesday a poster using the name "Westerner" wrote: "Do you guys know the laws related to defamation of character? Stating the passport number can bring a lot of trouble. Be ashamed of yourselves." A couple of hours after this post first appeared, the board moderator deleted it.

According to the law, personal information is something that belongs to a specific individual and is a tool that can identify the individual.

"Because a match can come up between a passport number and an individual, we can say a passport is personal information," said an official at the headquarters for e-gov at the Ministry of Government Information and Home Affairs.

Even without the passport number, if the full name and the reason the teacher is on the blacklist is being posted together, that is enough for the teacher to sue the accuser on charges of defamation of character, said a lawyer who only wanted to be identified by his surname "Lee."

"It doesn't matter whether the information is true or false, but if the post had the purpose of defamation, the accuser can be punished," Lee said. "Especially if the person-in-charge of the website didn't fact check the information beforehand."

Lee said it is entirely possible that the individual making the claims on the website had a personal agenda, unrelated to any alleged wrongdoing on the part of the accused.

If the information was not revealed for the public benefit, there is a better chance of punishment - serving time in jail or paying a fine - for the information provider, Lee said. But only the victims can file a lawsuit, he added.

Also, for disclosing personal information, an individual can served up to three years in prison or pay up to 10 million won in fines, according to the law.

Although the privacy of an individual should be protected, many are voicing opinions that a system that can easily do background checks on an applicant for the post of teacher should be made available to schools.

Some have cited the case of John Mark Karr, now the chief suspect in the murder of six-year-old beauty queen, JonBenet Ramsey. Karr taught English for a few months at a Korean academy in 2002. Thai officials arrested him last week for a crime he claims to have committed 10 years ago in the U.S. state of Colorado. A teacher blacklist may have revealed that he had at one time lost his teaching license for possession of child pornography, according to supporters of a blacklist.

Because the demand for native English teachers outweighs the supply in a number of Asian countries, critics have claimed it is too easy for many candidates with forged credentials or criminal records to come and teach in Korea, according to numerous recruiters.

Lee Seung-hae, who works for the online recruiting website Eicoedu, said a resume is what many recruiters depend on when they select their candidates.

"I wish we had an organized system that can check such personal information since the demand for native-speaking teachers is getting higher and higher," he told The Korea Herald, "but I know it won't be so easy."

Anonymous said...

"The victim ... and his family are the subject of a lot of scrutiny by members of the school community and (the) town community in which they live," prosecutor Elizabeth Griffith told a court hearing. "The victim has ... been teased and bullied and pointed out within the school community as somebody who might have been involved with the teacher."

Meanwhile, another woman teacher is facing charges for allegedly seducing one of her own 15-year-old students.


Natalina D'Addario (courtesy: The Australian)

Natalina D'Addario, a 36-year-old languages instructor from the Melbourne area is accused of beginning a sexual relationship with the teen in May.

Police say they engaged in oral sex on six occasions through July off school grounds. The affair reportedly came to a close in September when the boy notified his assistant principal of the liaisons.

These two cases are the latest in a series of Australian women having illicit relations with their male students.

According to the Australian, Cindy Leanne Howell, a female teacher's aide, was sentenced last month to at least two and a half years for preying on a 15-year-old boy; Sarah Jayne Vercoe was sentenced to four years for a series of sex offenses against five boys in Tasmania; and Karen Ellis of Victoria was jailed in May after pleading guilty to six charges of sexual penetration of a child under 16.

The Australian incidents are hauntingly reminiscent of the flood of cases reported in the United States and elsewhere.


Debra Lafave

Among the most well-known is the case of Debra Lafave, a 26-year-old reading teacher in Florida accused of having sex with a 14-year-old boy in her classroom, car and at home. Her plea deal sparing her jail time and giving her just house arrest was thrown out last week and her trial is now slated for April 10.

Other cases collected from news reports by WND and iGossip include:

Adrianne Hockett: Accused of having sex with a 16-year-old special-needs student in a Houston apartment she rented for the get-togethers. The boy has testified the pair would "have sex, drink beer and smoke weed."

Amber Jennings, 31: Initially charged with having sex with a 16-year-old, the counts against the Sturbridge, Mass., woman were reduced to a single charge of disseminating harmful materials to a minor. She reportedly admitted e-mailing naked photos of herself to a former student.

Amber Marshall, 23: Northwest Indiana woman allegedly had sexual contact, including intercourse, with several students, and turned herself into authorities, telling police she knew what she did was illegal.

Amira Sa'Si, 30: Clayton County, Ga., woman remarked she didn't think her relationship was inappropriate based on her Internet research, learning the Peach State's age of consent is 16.

Amy Gail Lilley, 36: Inverness, Fla., woman charged with an alleged relationship with a 15-year-old girl.

Angela Stellwag, 24: Delran, N.J., woman accused of having sex in her apartment with a 14-year-old boy she met in school.

Beth Raymond, 31: Private-school employee from Pownal, Maine, charged with risk of injury to a minor and second-degree sexual assault of a juvenile male.

Bethany Sherrill, 24: Daughter-in-law of school-board president is charged with molesting a middle school student when he was 14.


Carol Flannigan

Carol Flannigan, 50: Boca Raton, Fla., music teacher reportedly slept with 11-year-old former student, and also had a simultaneous sexual relationship with the boy's father.

Celeste Emerick, 32: Police in Huber Heights, Ohio, say she hosted a party where students were shown porn.

Christina Gallagher, 26: Jersey City, N.J., woman ordered to pay more than $1,000 in fines, sentenced to a lifetime registration as a convicted sex offender and ordered to attend therapy for having sex with a 17-year-old student.


Deanna Bobo

Deanna Bobo, 37: Arkansas teacher allegedly had sex twice with a 14-year-old boy in his own bed while his parents were not home.

Donna Carr Galloway, 33: Married mother of two found naked in a car with a 17-year-old student.

Elisa Kawasaki, 25: Officials say ex-biology teacher had sexual relations with a 16-year-old student on up to 20 different occasions.

Elizabeth Miklosovic, 36: Grand Rapids, Mich., woman pleaded no contest to sexually assaulting a 14-year-old female student she "married" in a pagan ritual.

Elizabeth Stow, 26: Woman from Fresno, Calif., area convicted of having sex with three of her students was sentenced to nine years, but the judge suspended that sentence and gave her one year, possibly on house arrest, as well as faces five years probation.

Ellen Garfield, 43: Former student says teacher took him into an empty classroom where she worked, partially disrobed, and coaxed him into having sex with her in 1998. Garfield was acquitted of all charges in September of this year.

Emily Morris, 28: Alabama woman faced a possible 20-year sentence, but received one year in jail for having consensual sex with a 15-year-old student.

Erica Rutters, 29: York, Pa., woman allegedly wrote erotic messages to a 17-year-old student and had sexual intercourse with him four times in her apartment.

Georgianne Harrell, 24: Sylvester, Ga., woman charged with performing oral sex on a 9-year-old boy, allowing students to gaze down her blouse and slashing her wrists with glass in front of her students. She pleaded not guilty.

Gwen Ann Cardozo, 33: Colorado woman charged with having sex with a 17-year-old male student.

Heather Ingram, 30: Mathematics, science and business teacher in British Columbia had sex with a 17-year-old student.

Janelle Marie Bird, 24: Accused of having a two-year affair with a 15-year-old student from East Hill Christian School, in Pensacola, Fla.


Jaymee Wallace

Jaymee Wallace, 28: Basketball coach in Tampa, Fla., charged with having an 18-month lesbian relationship with a student.

Joan Marie Sladky, 28: Redwood City, Calif., woman sentenced to six months in county jail for having sex with a 16-year-old student after pleading no contest to four counts of unlawful sexual intercourse, oral copulation and penetration with a foreign object.

Katherine Tew, 30: Married English teacher from Greenville, N.C., arrested for having sex with a 17-year-old student.

Kathy White, 39: Charged with having sex with a 17-year-old student in Lumberton, Texas. Victim alleges: "She just started grabbing me and hormones were on and it just happened."

Kelly Lynn Dalecki, 28: Woman from St. Augustine, Fla., pleaded no contest to charges she had sex with a 13-year-old boy.

Kristen Margrif, 27: Michigan woman accused of having sex with a 16-year-old male student in her car or at his summer workplace.


Kristi Oakes

Kristi Dance Oakes, 32: Former Tennessee high-school teacher allegedly had sex with a 16-year-old boy who was in her biology class the previous year.

Lakina Stutts, 40: School-bus driver admitted to cops she had sex with a 14-year-old student in her home and in a car outside the boy's home.

Laura-Anne Brownlee, 26: Former music mistress at a top private school in Belfast, N. Ireland, was sentenced on six charges of indecently assaulting a 15-year-old boy.

Laura Lynn Findlay, 30: Middle-school band teacher in Buena Vista Township, Mich., charged with having sex with at least 5 students, one as young as 14.


Margaret De Barraicua

Margaret De Barraicua, 30: Sacramento, Calif., area woman arrested after police found her having sex with a 16-year-old male student in her car while the woman's toddler was strapped into a seat in the back.

Maria Saco, 28: Passaic, N.J., woman sentenced to a year in jail for an intimate relationship with a teen student who was 14 when they first met.

Mary Kay Letourneau, 34: Des Moines, Wash., woman did prison time after having an affair with a sixth-grade student, and had two children by him. The couple recently married.

Melissa Michelle Deel, 32: Bristol, Tenn., woman pleaded guilty to crossing the state line into Virginia to have oral sex with a 13-year-old male student.

Michelle Kush, 29: Ohio woman allegedly had sex with a 15-year-old boy several times during summer break.

Nicola Prentice, 22: British woman from Sheffield, England, given a 12-month suspended jail sentence after she seduced a 16-year-old student and began a 19-month affair.

Nicole Andrea Barnhart, 35: Colorado woman reportedly told police she loves the 16-year-old boy with whom she was having sex. She pled guilty to felony sexual assault on a child, resulting in a two-year prison sentence.

Nicole Pomerleau, 31: High-school English teacher in Charlotte, N.C., accused of having a sexual relationship with her 16-year-old student.

Pamela Smart, 22: Media-services director at Winnacunnet High School in Hampton, N.Y., had convinced her 15-year-old lover to murder her husband. The Nicole Kidman film "To Die For" is based on her story.

Pamela Turner, 27: Former model and beauty-pageant contestant accused of having a three-month sexual relationship with a 13-year-old boy.

Rachelle Vantucci, 32: Ex-substitute teacher in western New York admitted having sex with a 16-year-old boy.

Rebecca Boicelli, 33: Redwood City, Calif., woman gave birth to a baby last year and DNA test results gave prosecutors enough evidence to prove the father is Boicelli's former student, who was 16 at the time of conception.

Rhianna Ellis, 24: New York City teacher who allegedly had a 10-month affair with an 18-year-old, and allgedly gave birth to his baby.

Robin Gialanella, 26: Elementary teacher in Toms River, N.J., engaged in kissing, and inappropriate conduct and conversations with two sixth-grade boys, ages 11 and 12. She was sentenced to 364 days in jail.

Robin Winkis, 29: York, Pa., woman allegedly had sex with a 17-year-old boy after giving him alcohol.

Samantha Solomon, 29: Fired after school bosses learned she was having sex with a teenage boy. She denies the charges.

Sandra "Beth" Geisel, 42: Albany, N.Y., woman was fired from her job at an private all-boys school after police in found her in a parked car with a 17-year-old. She pleaded guilty to a single count of rape and was sentenced to six months in jail.

Shelley Allen, 35: East Texas teacher's aide accused of sexual assault and faces a possible 20 years behind bars.

Shelley White, 24: Geography teacher in Britain had been engaged to be married before she kissed a 15-year-old student on at least three occasions. She avoided jail, but received 12 months community service.

Stephanie Burleson: Volleyball coach and teacher at Floresville High School in Texas six years ago, pleaded guilty to all charges for molesting a 16-year-old female student. She was sentenced to 10 years probation, and required to register as a sex offender.

Susan Eble, 35: Former teacher's aide is accused of having a sexual relationship with a 14-year-old boy.

Tara Lynn Crisp, 29: Police allege she had sex with a student at least three times beginning when he was 14.

Toni Lynn Woods, 37: The Braxton County, W.Va., woman confessed to having sexual intercourse with three juveniles a total of four times and oral sex with one of those juveniles and another juvenile a total of four times. She resigned.

WHAT KIND OF COUNTRY ARE YOU FROM ???

Anonymous said...

u r so fuckin sick.
As a human being,you should be Bloddy ASHMD of yourself.
y dont u write about yr stupid Brit morthers and sisters who go to pubs everynight just wanna find someone to fuck

Anonymous said...

IN WHAT KIND OF COUNTRY DID YOU GROW UP???

WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOUR COUNTRY???

Scoffer said...

Chinabounder really seems to have touched a raw nerve discussing sexuality in China.

Seems to me that a lot of Chinese guys are really defensive when it comes to sex. They must not laid too often.

It reminds me of the way Southern whites used to worry about black men in the 20th century. I can't imagine any modern males in a developed western country giving a damn who has sex with who.

All the whiners making threats on this blog need to grow up. In fact, perhaps you should be reflecting on why you feel so angry and fix your own psychological problems rather than projecting them on someone else.

Anonymous said...

.
CHECK IT OUT …
http://whoischinabounder.blogspot.com/

(no vigilantes, please. let’s just stop this guy making it difficult for other white guys to operate in shanghai.)

1. Lives in Shanghai. (Came to China six years ago.)
2. From England. (Also spent time in Germany and Australia)
3. 34 years old (born 1971).
4. Teaches English in various universities.
5. Knows Jiao Tong university well.
6. Gives his msn/email to students at the end of classes.
7. Lives on or near Huai Hai Road.
8. Reasonably good spoken/written Chinese.
9. Email address: chinabounder@gmail.com
10. Employment in England has included: working for several years for H4H; working in an environmental pressure group at Westminster; working in a project related with mental health.
11. Regularly dines at the Shanghai restaurant, ‘Le Garçon Chinois’.

PLEASE ASSIST by adding the relevant blog passage to the below FOOTNOTES:


2.
LITTLE BLACK BOOK -- Friday, August 25, 2006
“… she reminded me of a girlfriend back in England … And this particular girlfriend back in England was a long term part of my life, and the years I spent in Germany and then Australia.”

3. LITTLE BLACK BOOK -- Friday, August 25, 2006 -- (as he wrote in the COMMENTS section)
“I love my parents because they have raised me, not because 34 years ago my Dad fucked my Mum.” ; and,
He has earlier stated he was born in the year of the dog – (1971 = yr of the dog).

7.
SEDUCING CHRISTINE #4 -- Saturday, August 19, 2006
“So after eating we walked along Huai Hai Road back to my place.”

8.
Six yrs in China + Frequent use of Chinese in blog.

9.
As recorded in his “Profile” for his website.

10. LITTLE BLACK BOOK -- Friday, August 25, 2006 -- (as he wrote in the COMMENTS section)
“I worked for several years for H4H, as well as in an environmental pressure group at Westminster. I also did a stint helping in a project related with mental health.”



CHECK IT OUT …
http://whoischinabounder.blogspot.com/

cc said...

fffffffffff,
your english is really really good!

Sportsmania said...

I think this is the reason why Britishhmen are not good at sports:)
Because they use all of their time to hunting woman.
You can find that Britishmen are not good at any sports games.Even their soccer is the second class in the world. And I never saw any Britishman won a big trohpy in world sports games:) For instance,basketball(no Britishman in NBA),tennis(no trophy for hundreds of years),athletic(no golden coin in Olmypic games).
I found that the only thing they are good at is hunting girls:)
How underclass the ethnic group thet are!
Western valetudinarian!

Anonymous said...

anonymous said...

What I find so interesting about China is that it is an incredibly xenophobic, racist country, yet its women love foreigners. I am Japanese, and we all know how much the crazies in China hate us, but I experienced so many girls wanting to be with me, it was hilarious. If Japan is so bad, how come your women wanted me so much?

"You dress so well and are polite too!"

"You're so much better looking than the Chinese."

What would be even better than CB is if I wrote about my exploits in China. Haha. China is a pussy paradise.


Pussy paradise? What about Japanese AV?

Anonymous said...

No!
The Britishman are good at Sports, if fucking is sports games.
The most adept arena for Britishmen is women's bed! And if fucking is set as an Olympic game,I think they could win the world Champion. To compensate their loss in Basketball,soccer and athletic ...

Sportsmania said...

Look at your Japanese National baskeball team's performance in FIBA in Japan:) In your home,you could only won one game,just won an unknow named team.I belive our univeristy basketball team could alse beat your national team.
The reason why girls like you,I guess that may your cook are very soft:)
This is Japanese men's same character.

Anonymous said...

Hey, the King Engish teahcher in Korea KING Robert Marmot Hole posted a link. So many garbage from Korea will flood your blog. I suggest blocking their comments.

Anonymous said...

Wow, this Zhang Jiehai person is frightening. You should be careful Chinabounder, self-righteous vigilantes are often the most dangerous. Play it safe so we can continue to live vicariously through you!

Anonymous said...

Dude,

I feel for you..I truly do but there was one portion from each of you guys (you and the "professor") that I thought was really (lack of a better word) stupid.

You said that "Learn to read, Zhang Jiehai, learn to read. I only get involved with women after they have ceased to be my students:" Dude...you gotta come up w/ a better one than that. Its an iffy statement. If you some dude on the street and was able to pull the girl...thats one thing...but you just pulled them out of the class. I don't see much wrong w/ that, but you gotta understand the Asian mind set.


He said:
"It is very difficult for western women here. Someone like me will not even glance at a western woman. I treat them as if they are invisible. They don't exist."

Wow...that is amazing. Chinese people ignoring Western Women....imagine that. BUT how many Asian men (not jus the chinese) drop their jaws when a blonde walks by? It doesn't even matter if they are ugly or not. The reason I found his comment so funny is that...sure he ignores them but the bottom line is that he ignores them because he knows he has NO CHANCE IN HELL to get a western woman. Its funny, Asian women (not all) like Western men but western women don't like Eastern Men. Sure, it happens....if you are Bruce Lee.

Anyway, I hope you continue to blog and visit mystery hotels w/out windows (WTF??). Remember...the Professor is probably trying to sleep w/ his students and will hate on you for banging yours (ex's that is)

Anonymous said...

Hey! The Chinese do have problems, we hate our own people and we screw our own people up albeit talks of unity!

But guess what??! The Chinese never screw other people, even after other people screwed us over many times!!

We're not the united Jews killing others to fight for our right to live, we're not the freedom-loving Americans killing Iraqis, we're not the democratic Europeans whose colonial past continues to influence the tragedy of Africa and elsewhere.

Hey! The Chinese love white people like Chinabounder, and we repress our own Tibetans and we can't get Taiwan back, and we're in denial of the fack that we fuck our own people.

How interesting!!

But guess what, why hate on China-- we have never killed foreign people, never conquered foreign land, never occupied foreign soil, and never massacred foreign men. We only screw ourselves-- so stop complaining about China and let us live!!!

Anonymous said...

b

Anonymous said...

chinabounder:
can you give me your telephone code or email?i have some questions to ask you,thank you

Anonymous said...

I am willing to agree to about 90% of what Anonymous said (about how China usually stays out of peoples business) but I cannot agree w/ it all.

China never did anything to fuck w/ other people? I don't know if they teach you about the Korean war in China but here is quick breakdown:

1. North Korea starts a war w/ the South Koreans. Not the other way around.

2. The South Korean army gets pushed down to the Busan Parameter.

3. The US army lands in Incheon.

4. They push the N. Korean Army back past the DMZ and to the boarder.

5. CHINA w/ 100,000+ men pour down South to aid the man who started the war. The war continues on for another 2 years w/ many more people dying.

Now I ask you...if the South Korean and US army wasn't attacked by the Chinese, would Korea be one country now? The Chinese tried to help N. Korea but didn't succeed.

Didn't China have a war w/ Vietnam?

SO, you are wrong. The Americans have blood on their hands (like you said, we are killing Iraqis) but don't believe for a second that your hands are any cleaner.

Anonymous said...

Why close your infamous blog? Pity!!! Should let more Chinese to get to know you. Then you feel even more important and vital when you walk in the streets of Shanghai.

xm said...

你这鬼子有多少sex partners 咱无可厚非,中国男人中也有像你这么乱性的,千万不要以此为荣,觉得自己是个sex god.之所以这么多人气愤,是由于你鄙视中国人的口吻,将心比心,德国人说英国足球烂,你们一些同胞已经受不鸟了,更别说其他的了!!

很多年前在大学里也有外教,当时资源少,20来岁的小屁孩都能给我们上课,但是,谁不知道,很多外国人来中国是因为在自己国家混不下去了!但是少,他们知道中国人是他们的衣食父母,不至于像你这么猖狂。

人格不健全,不懂得最起码的尊重人的道理,所以不管在英国还是中国,你都只能算是垃圾。是金子在哪里都会发光,是垃圾,在哪里都会发臭!

幸好不是所有西方人都像你这样。真是倒胃口!!一粒老鼠屎哈!

Anonymous said...

不要被误导

ChinaBounder 在自己的日记里提到他的名字是Brian。
现在很多人在上海寻找叫Brian的外教。
可是请注意,这个很可能是一个误导,那个其实不是他的真名。
请大家在没有确切证据前不要伤害任何人。

Anonymous said...

FUCK YOU. DON'T BE SURPRISED WHEN YOU GET STABBED. BITCH.

Anonymous said...

A common Shanghai girl

I feel I have a lot to say after reading the articles. Overall, they are really very funny.

I grew up in Shanghai and took the undergrad in a university very close to Fudan. Now I’m studying and living in the US. I agree a lot with what the author said about Shanghai, about the girls there, about the girls’ parents, even about the condon. Haha. (My boyfriend (Chinese) has the same feeling after he came to the US. )

给那些指责他的同胞:

他只是个典型的花花公子,还喜欢炫耀(show off)我觉得这也是挺正常的。每个人有每个人的生活方式。有人可以不赞同,但你也无须干涉别人怎么生活的。

值得我欣赏的是,他写得应该大部分是事实。外国人在中国确实是被宠坏了啊!上海酒吧里的女生不都喜欢搭讪外国人吗?中国做生意的人看到外国人不都客气三分吗?除了历史悠久,我们国家难道不是在很多方面不如欧美发达国家吗?

那我们为什么不面对事实呢?为什么中国女生想找外国人?大家都不是傻子,每个人都有爱国心,有好的中国男生为什么还要找一个语言文化上有隔阂的人做老公呢?归根到底是中国还太穷。看看加州动则几百万美金的豪宅,你就会觉得上海那些所谓的高档小区简直不值一提。

我觉得我们还是多把心思放在怎么更好的建设好我们的国家上面吧。保护环境,改善行政效率低的问题。环境好了,生活富裕了,男生都把体格练得棒棒的,也不用担心女生都找外国人了。

To the author:

I like your writing. I laughed several times while reading the blog. But I don’t like your attitude toward love. I feel sorry for the girls you have cheated.

Plus, be careful with your articles. The university may fire you due to the social pressure. Take care.

狼迹天牙 said...

Fuck the professor's asshole!

Anonymous said...

What a dickhead.....i've never seen anyone so shamelessly writing about his cheating on girls. Shame on you man, shame on u.

Fox said...

Hey bounder,

Great reply. I live in Taiwan and would like to follow your blog.

I have two going myself crowroad.blogspot and bao-dao.blogspot

All the best,

Fox

John Bartley K7AAY said...

I'd be gratified if you would grant me access to read your blog.
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Clackablog.blogspot.com
Kiloseven.blogspot.com
PDX OR USA

riccardo said...

Hey mate, looks like your doin' well up there in China. I haven't heard from you in a while since that long night back in April at the pub in Hereford... anyway I'm down in Indonesia doing much the same as you are with the Chinese-Indo girls here.
Check my little "forum blog" and keep in touch,
Riccardo
http://www.jakchat.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?/forum/20.html

Chicklet said...

Hey, I'm just catching up on this, but MAN this guy is something!

Anonymous said...

哇噻吼吼哈哈 一帮无聊的人

Anonymous said...

You are a coward, why close your blog? If you have nothing to hide or feel ashamed of, why did you close it?

And, since you have so much hate towards China, f*** off and go back to the UK! Nobody's begging you to stay, in fact they want to kick you outta there! Oh, I forgot, you are a useless piece of sh*t back home, and that's why you left there in the first place.

Coward.

Anonymous said...

It seems that an ugly poor stinky hairy limey is staying in my country, Wow~ it is really disgusting~ you know, I hate inferior british, what do you have? money? obviously not~ handsome figure? no~ all stupid british are too white, after tanned by the sun you become pink as well-cooked shrimp~haha~ Do you know why we can take Hongkong back? Cause your small little tiny motherland is not a great empire anymore, just a floody island~ and a loyal dog of Uncle Sam~ by the way, I just kicked an Anglo-Saxon man's ass last tuesday in a night bar in Canada, if you let me see you in Shanghai, I would kick your asshole~~~

Wen Hu

Anonymous said...

If Xinjiang is not a part of China, why do you fucking English still occupies Scotland na Nothern Ireland? Get out from those two places~ If you wanna say something about the world war 2, let me tell you, without American, you would speak German now~ anyway, Anglo-Saxon are germanic. My dear Adolf Hitler, your great plan did not be achieved, if your army could land in England, this fucking guy and his female family member would be deracinated, his grandmother and all other British women would have pure teutonic husband and create a fresh new Anglo-German nation. What about in eastern battlefield? Funny british royal army collapsed immediately in Singapore, in Hongkong, in Malaysia and in Myanmar, without our Chinese troops in Myanmar, your Marshal Alexander would be captured by Japanese and even got decapitated, whatever, I never count British troops as Allies because royal army equals to the word "prat", you were only a little better than French~ by the way, your helmet is really funny as a dog's bowl~ and your shorts looks "cute"~

Wen Hu

Anonymous said...

kinda see your points. yeah, I cannot agree with prof Zhang at all, whose essay and book are shit...but if we go down to the very nature of your blogs, you are just buggering about sex life with school girls and criticise the Chinese society opinionatedly. So I have to say you are nothing more than an asshole.

sihaiweijiaderen said...

why can't chinese create intelligent arguments and criticisms? they only seem to be writing empty pointless insults

Sage said...

and what "intelligent" arguments and criticisms have you made sihaiweijiaderen besides making an impression that you are just a dumb shit stating the obvious.

Anonymous said...


I am surprised there are so many people here talking nonsense. This bounder is nothing but an attention whore. Don't waste your precious time on him. Enjoy a real life!!!

Bye, Mr. Chinabounder!!! I think you should see a doctor now. Happy new year, everyone.

charles said...

About your views on Taiwan, I fail to see Taiwan as an independent country. The fact you assume it is based upon different elected parties is obsolete. The fact you said Beijing has zero control over Taiwan is also incorrect for a large number of reasons which I wont bother going into at this stage. Taiwan is a rebel state that has no identity both in the UN nor in the olympic games which they are listed under China and play China's national anthem. Taiwan's real name is republic of china and this is enforced in their passport. The only true taiwanese are those who resided in the island before the nationalist party arrived. You should read more in online forums to gain a better understanding of politics. Currently you have very little knowledge of what you are preaching. Considering everything now is based upon legal implications, fact and technicalities. Then it is obvious that Taiwan is part of China, end of story.

ChinaBounder said...

Charles said 'I fail to see Taiwan as an independent country'

Admitting failure is the beginning of wisdom. Well done!

Anonymous said...

I think the solution is for China to ban undereducated single men from English teaching positions. These are usually unskilled guys looking for job to support their sexual tourism goals. Married men or women should be fine, but single guys should be scrutinized. This should cut down on future Chinabounders.

Chinabounder I hope gets a screwdriver through the chest while walking down a crowded street. How many perverted looking british english teachers could there be in Shanghai. This guy is crying for suicide we must grant him his wish.

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