Sunday, August 27, 2006

A tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

Now here’s another lunatic. Here’s a mouth-frother, here’s a bigot, here’s a stiff-necked buffoon who, in one ranting article, shows all that is wrong, footling and absurd about modern China.

This man is a professor at the Shanghai Academy of Social Sciences. A professor! In this is shown so much that is wrong about today’s China. A country’s educational system should be home the best and brightest, to those who can think, weigh, balance, judge. And instead what does poor China get? Knee-jerk nationalists like this, myopic, thoughtless, a crass dolt who thinks like a sheep, rages like a hyena, and is impotent like a mule. Ah, Zhang, proud Zhang, dressed in a little brief authority, like an angry ape.

And – astonishment piles on astonishment – he is a professor of psychology! A man who should have some insight into the shades and ways of thought, the grades and colors of morality, comes out instead with such an article! Every word of it in a nail in the coffin of his credibility.

Yet this is what passes for the educated in China. This is the caliber of person China has in its most prestigious institutes. What hope can there be for China when people like this educate its young? How can the country ever take its rightful place among the leaders of the world when this is the standard of its thinkers?

I hold my head in my hands as I read his article. I had hoped China was moving beyond such folly; but as I read and re-read what he writes I see how strong the path to failure is, how compelling. If China cannot get past its Zhang Jiehais, what hope?

Look at this man, look, listen, listen and see what modern China can be.

Today, with tremendous anger, I will tell you the story of an immoral foreigner and I call upon all Chinese compatriots to get together and kick this immoral foreigner out of China.

Ah, the pomposity of his tone, the bluster, the arrogance. Yet this is a common thing in China, the group mind, the `all Chinese compatriots’ stance, the suggestion that to be foreign is to be inferior. And then too the safety in numbers stance, the righteous indignation of the crowd. Zhang Jiehai (and he is not alone in this stance) can only see the world in one way; he expects everyone to see like him, think like him. He cannot understand that others might have differing views, cannot see anything but black and white.

And so on he goes:-

This is intolerable and this piece of garbage must be found and kicked out of China!!!

This also is another common knee-jerk phrase that most expats in China will know well. China for the Chinese. We are one. We are us. You are you. You are here only as long as it pleases us.

This is mere variation on the chime most expats will know well, the by-rote patter they hear when they have any complaint about the country -- ‘If you don’t like China, go home!

Once, he was even shameless enough to say, "I 'm tired of her already. A cunt is a cunt. I keep her just so that I can play with her again."

Which is perfectly true. I did say that. I am not proud of it, but nor will I lie about it. And I hardly think it is a rare attitude. I am sure many guys – and women too – have slept with a person they care nothing much for merely for the pleasure.

This piece of garbage's favorite show is to use obscene and pornographic language to describe the bodies of Chinese women and how they made love. For example, "My dearest Tingting, you have a very good and beautiful body. I cannot stop thinking about your beautiful skin, your lovely, smooth and soft breasts, you sexy, smooth and fine waist, your sweet and pretty legs and arms ... oh, of course, you are so pretty, so sexy and so perfect between your legs!"

Obscene and pornographic? To tell a woman how wonderful she is? The crashing irony of this, that after lecturing me for being dismissive of the average Chinese guy’s romantic skills he shows how few he has, escapes him. To tell a woman she is pretty and sexy is obscene?

While in general Zhang Jiehai reports what I said accurately, I must take issue with his claim that I wrote Chinese men are ‘incredibly ugly.’ It is possible that he merely misunderstood me – for sure he is no thinker, no reader – but I never said anything remotely similar to this.

But what makes it intolerable for me is that this piece of garbage deliberately hurt the feelings of the Chinese national feelings in his class and he openly spoke to divide China.

And there it is again; the inability to conceive that other people might think in other ways. Ah, no such uncertainly for Zhang Jiehai, no; to him all Chinese people think the same, feel the same, are the same. Sure, when I say `Chinese guys are..’ I am `a piece of garbage’; but when he says `Chinese national feelings’ he is nothing but justified, insightful and correct.

As everybody knows, on the 15th of this month, Japanese prime minister Koizumi will visit the Yasukuni Shrine once more and thereby draw strong protests from China and many Asian countries. But this piece of garbage openly wrote on his blog on August 17 to denigrate the nationalistic feelings of the Chinese people!

And again. If I do not agree with `the nationalistic feeling of the Chinese people’ then I must be trying to denigrate China. If I do not think in the Zhang Jiehai approved manner, I must perforce be wrong.

On goes the parade of ignorance:

In the essay "The two fatal flaws of the Chinese people," I praised the Israelis for "hunting down the Nazis" at all costs and then finally sending them to hang on the Israelis' own gallows.

Now while this is true, and commendable, it has little relevance here. As I made explicitly clear in my blog, the justified target of anger is those who were guilty of crimes. Such people are the target of the Simon Wiesenthal center, and rightly so. But in China today, Japanese people in general are hated, merely for being Japanese. In any case, China’s own government suspended action against a large number of Japanese war criminals in the interests of fostering good relations between the two countries.

the Japanese would have apologized to us a long time ago and they would not dream of going to any Yasukuni Shrine.

Man, I am getting to sound as absurd as Zhang Jiehai himself. There is so much lunacy in his article that merely by replying to it I am tainted with his sickness myself. For this particular gem of nonsense I will merely point out what I said before – that Japan has apologized. And I will also ask, can one apologize for a crime one has not committed? Today’s Japanese government, after all, murdered no one. But if one can apologize for the crimes of one’s predecessors, when will the CPC apologize for the 30 to 50 million deaths it caused?

But what does Zhang Jiehai want? For today’s Japanese people to apologize for something they did not do to someone they did not harm?

He even dared to openly engaged in activities to divide China. For example, he once asked a student from Xinjiang: "Is Xinjiang really a part of China?" At the same time, he told his students any number of times: "Taiwan is really an independent country."

And once more I hold my head in my hands. I expect such knee-jerk tosh from students, but to hear it from a professor saddens me greatly. Again – how ever can China hope to become great when this is the caliber of its intellectual elite?

I am willing to listen to the person who tells me Xinjiang is part of China.

Zhang Jiehai is not willing even to countenance the opposite argument. What kind of academic will not even accept an argument that opposes his own? Well, a shit kind of academic, that’s what.

I have talked to several Muslim students from Xinjiang. They most certainly do not feel Xinjiang should be part of China. And as for Taiwan... It simply is a separate country, and there’s no possible way to deny it. Now whether it should be separate or should remain separate is a different argument. But now, today, it is separate. The Taiwanese choose their own leaders; they have their own laws, language, currency, passport. Beijing has zero direct power over Taiwan; and therefore while all sides may preserve the `one country two systems’ fiction, the fact of the matter is that Taiwan is separate. One needs look no further than the international attitude to a Taiwanese passport and a Chinese passport for the truth of that.

It is the job of an academic to try to see things as they are, not as they are wished to be. Zhang Jiehai falls at this elementary hurdle. He is not even on the lowest rung of the path to true intelligence.

For the Chinese women as well as the Chinese men, this is lively and hard-to-find education material!

Indeed. Clearly the kind of education material Zhang Jiehai is capable of producing has no merit.

He gloated: "It is very difficult for western women here. Someone like me will not even glance at a western woman. I treat them as if they are invisible. They don't exist."

This is again perhaps a misreading of my point, and I cannot really criticize Zhang Jiehai on it; after all, I am sure his English is a fuck sight better than my Chinese. Nonetheless, I was not gloating. I was merely pointing out the reality of life in China today.

On one hand, as a scholar and a man,

You are no scholar, Sir. You profane the very word. You have no claim to the title. A scholar is everything you are not. You are merely a bigot and a parasite.

I have relentlessly and directly criticized Chinese men, because I am one of them. On the other hand, I have always been reticent with respect to Chinese women, which included our mothers, wives, sisters and daughters.

In a nutshell, there it is. China man’s attitude to woman. Most thinking women would find such an attitude offensive and patronizing.

Zhang Jiehai, women do not want to be treated with kid gloves, they do not want to be put on a pedestal, they do not want to be treated as works of art. The want to be seen as equals. They do not want your offensive, patriarchal bullshit.

Especially this piece of garbage, who is in the business of an engineer of the soul, and the engineer of the soul of our elites!

And after all this, you have the gall to talk about engineering souls, my lord fool? You who clearly can only engineer the most paltry, staid and desiccated of thinkers?

I am a researcher in psychology.

Barely.

The Chinese women that he dallied with are his students. Outside of China, relationships between teachers and students are strictly prohibited. But this piece of garbage used his status as teacher to deceive his inexperienced female students. We ask how such a beast can be a teacher?

Learn to read, Zhang Jiehai, learn to read. I only get involved with women after they have ceased to be my students.

Our relevant departments really ought to step in!

Ah, yes; if you do not like what someone else says, shut them down. And you call yourself an academic!

The most valuable hint is that he went to the Tianping Hotel with a female student and the room has no window. Everybody knows that very few hotel rooms have no window (I have never encountered a windowless room). When I went to check at the Tianping Hotel, they really did not have any windowless rooms.

This is perhaps the most astonishing comment of all. This man went to a location I claimed to have been to see if it existed. He sees some blog on the net and gets so righteous indignant about it that he turns himself into Sherlock Holmes. He did this; he went to the Tianping Hotel to ask them about their rooms. What a bumbling, impotent buffoon! And this is the caliber of China’s academics. This is what they worry themselves about? I am just one guy, of no especial importance, not much more or less than many expats and certainly no different to a goodly number of local men, who cheat and cog and play just as much as I do.

Listen to yourself, Zhang Jiehai, listen to yourself.

If people think that there is a foreign language teacher who fits these descriptions, or otherwise find valuable clues, please leave a comment at my blog or contact me directly via email.

Netizens and compatriots, if you are a Chinese man with guts and if you respect Chinese women, please join this "Internet hunt for the immoral foreigner"! Let us act together! I believe in the power of the Internet, because I believe in the power of the Chinese people!

I am just aghast at this. Truly, I fear for China. Not just because of the utter paucity of thinking, life, truth and honesty that typifies the Zhang Jiehais of today’s China, nor just that if he is any representative of the country's academic quality China is doomed, but also because in calling for a witch-hunt he calls for ugliness and hatred, he calls for fascism, he calls for ignorance.

Zhang Jiehai, you are a far greater danger to China than ever I could be. You spread ignorance, lies and poison; you stifle thought, freedom and intellect. You are stupidity, folly, contempt.

It is because of people like you that so many of China’s best and brightest seek education abroad. You have nothing to offer the young of today’s China but bankrupt ideas and meaningless platitudes. You drive the finest minds of China to the West. You have nothing to say. You have nothing to teach.

Poor China, to still be so hurt by her own people!


(This entry was edited after posting to correct the fact that Zhang Jiehai is a member of the Shanghai Academy of Social Sciences, not the Chinese Academy of Sciences. Part of my anger at Zhang was that I erroneously thought he was a member of the CAS, which has had my respect for a long time. They have some truly outstanding thinkers and researchers, and I was disappointed to see a clod like this among their ranks. I will let the entry stand; but I offer an unreserved apology for having briefly traduced the CAS)



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Anonymous said...

Zhang Jiehai (and he is not alone in this stance) can only see the world in one way; he expects everyone to see like him, think like him. He cannot understand that others might have differing views, cannot see anything but black and white.

Precisely like you.

Anonymous said...

both of you don't quite understand what you're doing now, anyway, that's also kind of a communication, lol

Anonymous said...

Zhang Jiehai is not willing even to countenance the opposite argument. What kind of academic will not even accept an argument that opposes his own? Well, a shit kind of academic, that’s what.

Precisely like you.

Anonymous said...

It is the job of an academic to try to see things as they are, not as they are wished to be. Zhang Jiehai falls at this elementary hurdle. He is not even on the lowest rung of the path to true intelligence.

Precisely like you.

Anonymous said...

You are no scholar, Sir. You profane the very word. You have no claim to the title. A scholar is everything you are not. You are merely a bigot and a parasite.

Precisely like you.

fffffffffffffffffffffffffff said...

before you make more kakaka...,
you did not answer my question.

why do you purposedly choose "lover"
instead of "f..ker" to ignore the fact your mom or wife is multi-f..ked?

u said u don't care, it seems the
word "f..k" really provokes your queasiness about a very nature human action, dig a hole...,

you are liar, you lie about your so-called openess. Whoever believes that openess is no brianer...

Anonymous said...

Well, ppl from a small island are really short-sighted and knows nothing but being arrogance. What you have written clearly tells us what a typical english jerk can be. english chicks have their 'attractive' pear shape body which is quite famous around world. Probably that's why you are getting so sick out of this.

engisland has nothing but its legacy dreams being a kingdom without sunset. but now, you only get endless raining and dark winters in the island. that's probably why you leave the hell and go to china.

wake up, mate! have a glance of what engisland is now: anti-social behaviour, excessive drinking, knife crime, and students cannot even read properly when they are enrolled in unis... the only thing you left to be proud of is ur fucking ability. Ironically, based on a survey to men in the world, english men, without any doubts, have the shortest erection time, less than 2 mins. congratulations!

i am deeply sorry for those nice britons who could be humiliated becos of you and your behaviour.

The Deviator said...

Some poor dumb slob of an English teacher in Shanghai is going to date an English teach and suddenly find himself the innocent victim of a witch hunt.

Vigilante "justice" by nationalists with threatened manhood can't end well.

Still, it's amusing to see the outrage China Bounder has generated by mixing sex, politics, and national insecurity.

Anonymous said...

Poor english guy, still in the dream of being from a kingdom without sunset. But now, england only has a spinless pussy dog to lead the country. Long gone the kingdom and the spirit...

FL said...

man...get over yourself alreday. you are just a pathetic guy who cannot find anyhting else meaningful in your life. Talking about arrogance, you are a perfect example b/c you never seem to accept the (at least possible)validity of others' criticism.

Those women who you had sex with are either incredibely naive, messed-up or big-players. Nothing you wrote here can speak to any "facts" about Shanghai/Chinese women in general.

this is my first and last comment. I am out of here.

Anonymous said...

please leave this city and this country. PLEASE. HURRY.

I like you. I do not want anything to happen to you.

Please pack and leave.

PLEASE. ACT. QUICK.

ffffffffffffffffffffffffff said...

hi, chinabound,

Was your queen a virgin when gets married? Was she f..ked many times before her husband started?

according to your non-medieval thought, this question is not offensive at all, is it?

a reader said...

Once, he was even shameless enough to say, "I 'm tired of her already. A cunt is a cunt. I keep her just so that I can play with her again."

Which is perfectly true. I did say that. I am not proud of it, but nor will I lie about it. And I hardly think it is a rare attitude. I am sure many guys – and women too – have slept with a person they care nothing much for merely for the pleasure.

--------------------------------

well, funny how you say "shameless" when Zhang quoted your own words. Saying "not proud of it" or honest about it doesn't make it a less shameful deeds (i mean saying those exact words, perhaps not entirely applicable to how you court women), not in the least justified by how you imagine many others would do. A very lame excuse, a big lie when you say you respected all those women.

fffffffffffffffffffffffffff said...

You said,
Which is perfectly true. I did say that. I am not proud of it, but nor will I lie about it. And I hardly think it is a rare attitude. I am sure many guys – and women too – have slept with a person they care nothing much for merely for the pleasure.

BUT, why are you so hesitated to say that questions like how many times your mom, your wife had had been f..ked are no offender to you?

Why do you avoid f..k since it's a sheer pleasure?

fffffffffffffffffffffffffffff said...

You said,
To tell a woman she is pretty and sexy is obscene?

I might agree on you before you agree that asking a guy how many times his mom/wife was f..ked is truely polite.

Chinabounderess said...

that Zhang needs to get laid, and then he can try to get a life. Im so TIRED of all those comments "let us stand together, chinese power, blah blah blah"

Anonymous said...

We ppl dunt alwayz think the same. However, we all agree that you should get the fuck out of here!

cindy said...

this guy is plain stupid and childish...and he does not even know that?! keep rambling here about what he "thinks"/"believes" is true... read more,see more, talk to people more, CHINABOUNDER, and you do not have to fuck them, btw, to get them talking--in case you do not know. I cannot believe someone else would think he is "bright". oh..boy..he is 36. what a treasure.

Anonymous said...

If you talk to Sean Connery, he will say Scotland should be an independent country;

If you talk to Catholics in northern Ireland, most of them support a united Ireland,

So, why there's still a United Kingdom?

I've little problem with your life style, but, if you want to talk about China (not the girls slept with you), please do more study to keep you from appering too ignorant and arrogant...

anyway, diversity makes the world beautiful! lol

Anonymous said...

Chinabounder is here to get laid coz he cannot get it elsewhere. Maybe we really blame this loser too much.

fffffffffffffffffffffffff said...

u really make a long shit without answering my question,

"how many times had your mom been
f..ked...".

Are u a coward, nationalized english man?

Biter said...

This is so tragically unfunny. The blog posts are nothing compared to vile bleating that fills the comment boards. The primitives here who beat their collective chests in outrage should be ashamed. There is no way anything in this blog could ever be said in a polite context to anyone, and if you don't like it then you can simply ignore it. I am sure every member of the Chinese 'Yoof' here is already pulling off similar mental gymnastics by ignoring the horrifying deficiencies within their own country and wasting precious moments howling at the moon.

Apparently China is currently in the primary stage of socialism. That is moving stuff, as the view from here shows that China has yet to reach the primary stage of civilization. For the 'professor' who kindly took time out to pen this great call to arms, perhaps you could perform another great act of charity and have yourself sterilised. Then future generations will have the LIBERTY of not having to endure your strain of idiocy.

Anonymous said...

Take it easy. I am thinking maybe you should have your experience(Sex & Politics) published. It gives a rare and poignant angle to capture the current Chinese society that undergoes a fleeting transition. Someday it could even be taken as a classic to study the changing China.

Anonymous said...

has anyone remembered the Japanese story with escorts in ZHUHAI in 2004? In some chinese minds, chinese girls can't be fucked by foreign people, forgetting some of them sleep with escorts in Beijing or Bangkok without paying one penny, since that is paid by government money.

Whatever, chinese like to review one foreigner's point as that of a country. So, be careful , your some viewpoint may endanger ur compatriot.Like some guy saying :"is queen a virgin before DONGFang night?". LOL

Anonymous said...

楼上biter的言语好毒喔(名副其实)。。声称所谓礼仪文明,内心的狭隘龌龊和冰冷虚伪却是尽显,好恶心!

Anonymous said...

Well, your blog does not make your fucking advantures any easier I guess. :-)

Anonymous said...

1.出来混,迟早要还的。
2.淫人妻女者,妻女必被人淫。

以上,谨记

ffffffffffffffffffffffffffff said...

anonimous said,
like some guy saying :"is queen a virgin before DONGFang night?". LOL


Look, you are against the rule of game. Nationalized man.

Being a open minded man, there is no offence of talking about queen's virginity. Are u still living in dark age?

I do see you are not equal with chinese woman and queen.

we are free of talking about f..king chinese woman and f..king queen, arent we?

ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff said...

by arguing with subway beggars,
here comes arguments that's funny.

Is queen a virgin when she married?

If not, how many had f..ked her?
what the size her puusy is? is it lager enough to enbrace a KingKong's? If yes, surely she would make man happy and she is so lovely...

What do you think if she was not?

fffffffffffffffffffffffffffff said...

A subway beggar said,
Whatever, chinese like to review one foreigner's point as that of a country. So, be careful , your some viewpoint may endanger ur compatriot.Like some guy saying :"is queen a virgin before DONGFang night?". LOL

---
beggar made logic weakness here.
It seems to him his queen should not be related with virginity issue?
why, why shouldn't she? she does not have hole in the body or what?

why shouldnt we concern about her pussy's size?

maybe she gains or already gained many pleasure by venery with not only one.

God bless queen. God, please provide queen more male companion since she will have more pleasure.

Guys, you wont denny queen has pleasure when having sex, will you?

Anonymous said...

那个谁,一串f...f,有点技术含量好不好,讲点素质好不好,表人堕落就更堕落。

fffffffffffffffffffffffffffff said...

i have to appologize to all, i have no intension to offend the queen and queen mother.

but i have to admit i'm devil.

a devil is triggered only by evil...

a devil won't be stopped until a women is sacrified, namely the blogger's wife, mother, his queen, and queen mother...

Anonymous said...

China Bounder, how about coming to Japan to fuck Japanese women? Unlike China, Japan is a REAL democratic country, and you have a lot of freedom to fuck any Japanese women you want to sell your body to. The only problem is: thousands of British people, Australians and Americans have already occupied all of the ENGLISH teaching positions here. Craps like you who have no education, no degree, and no morality will find no jobs here. I guess you are thinking of leaving China (you'll have to!), what is the next fuck place for you?!

Anonymous said...

Well, just stop biting like dogs - both of you. 90% car drivers belive that they drive better than others. People tend to think they are smarter than others...

Sex stories are sex stories. Too much comments on China society will ruin this blog site. Mr Bounder as a foreigner, he can have his understanding about China. But, this understanding is just confined in his environment. He is dealing poeple (especially women) in this very environment. If you have not spent 20 years in China, and traveled every corner in this huge country, you wont really know it.

Be fair; Be neutral. Be less-criticizing.

Mr. Bounder is a good writer. I enjoy reading his writings. I skip paragraphs of his comments on China and Chinese people. Mostly These comments look sharp and smart but ... somehow naive ... or, premature.

Keep rolling the good part!

ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff said...

nonymous said...

那个谁,一串f...f,有点技术含量好不好,讲点素质好不好,表人堕落就更堕落。

--
China Bounder the beggar said he is open minded. My comments are to test whether he is like what he describes himself.

looks he does not seems to care there are many shots on his mother's body..., and he assumes she would have had one shock per shot...

unfotunately, many china girls seem to agree his point of openess...
that's why he has market in chnia...

Anonymous said...

i was directed here from another site and was amazed by the sheer dullness of this sex and shanghai blog. about as erotic as frying an egg (with a little salt). but then such dullness is usual on 95% of blogs.

The highlight is this little comment box, especially those vicious attacks on england, britain, the UK and (bless her) the queen. someone should have a word with these cruel posters and tell them that the majority of brits (especially those overseas) don't give a monkeys' about the UK's standing in the modern world, nor the sexual orientation of its present and former queens. while a foreigner insulting chairman mao may cause all sorts of righteous indignation in China, doing the same to the english queen would cause nothing more than a giggle of agreement because laughing at ourselves and our 'leaders' is what we do best, try it china. it would make you feel much better.

anyway, that's my one and only visit here. i will be off. good luck to all the lovers out there. all the ladies and all the psychology professors who need to think about how they can be more attractive to ladies (rather than trying to stop those pesky foreign men from being attractive to their 'sisters' and 'mothers').

Anonymous said...

I read the Zhang Jiehai article with great alarm. You can dislike Chinabounder and his views, but to instigate a witchhunt? To deny that Taiwan is a separate country? Chinabounder is a scoundrel. But Zhang is a lunatic. And, as expected, there is little intelligence discourse in the comments. I must admit though, Chinabounder's blog has become much more interesting as a result...

fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff said...

to upper poster,

what makes you think talking about the queen's sex pleasure is not good?

isnt she a woman?

she will feel different from those
chinese women? she does not like more attractive man?


I'm not defending Mao. Those Maoist did not talk about your queen. It's me. A sex pleasure lover.

BTW Tell your queen, my gun lasts longer than her hubby, I'll make her happy. I'm romantic, aren't I? And i can play her with even SM games, more exiting , right?

fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff said...

To all britons,

I'm not assualting your queen.
I'm attacking "his" queen.

It's you, educated, civilized, non-animalized gentle men show your respect to her majesty. Solute to you all.

But this nationarized one hasn't said a single word to defend your queen yet.

I suggest you Briton seriously re-think of your naturaization program.

Don't grant pride of being Roman to barbarians. It's barbarians who destroied Rome.

I should show my greatest sympathy to you Christians. Since your were tortured(i mean raped) by many, name of some, gauls, vandals, goths, moors, huns, and ....

i guess this is what so-called openess come from?

fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff said...

The unnamed briton,
...
sexual orientation of its present and former queens...

seems you get lost.

I'm talking about her majesty's sex history, loudly.

i seems you won't feel uncomfotable
when someone is talking about your queen's sex history, and describe how she is played and pleased on the bed ...,is it right?

ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff said...

strange enough,

Talking about whether queen is virgin is depicted as attacking her?! Especially when he is talking about he and his akin's indifference about her sex oriental?

did i ever talk about sex oriental?

My concern is how deep can dick dig a hole in queen body by different attractive men and give her pleasure.


Can I call that guy inconsistant or LIAR?

The Humanaught said...

@fffffffffffffffffff: man, you are one weird individual. You're trying desperately to explain your point. We get it... it's just weird and lacks perspective. I dare say that Chinabounder has no idea how many times his mother has had sex and I'll go on a limb and guess that most of us don't want to know. If he starts sleeping with your mom, then get offended about mothers... but (and again, I'm guessing), he's not sleeping with her. And the queen thing? How's the fit in? Chinabounder, did you sleep with Mr. Mao?

It should be noted that at no point did Chinabounder "force" himself upon these girls. It's ridiculous to assume that these girls didn't want to have sex just as much as he did. Ridiculous and archaic.

As for Chinabounder's politics. I'm sure much of it is shared across the globe in informed circles. It's difficult to have a blog in China, confronted with the surface and the reality of life in China and not want to compare and contrast the two.

End of the day, this is Chinabounder's blog, and he's free to (and somewhat expected to) speak his mind. Who are we to criticize.

And for the love of Mao, standup, and stop posting annonymously... click the "Other" button and put in a damn name. It doesn't even have to be real... just some damn name so all these "annonymous" comments don't blend together as one unified voice - sorta strengthens the collective-mind argument.

Anonymous said...

LITTL JOHN BULLOCK IS PEEING IN HIS PANTS.

Get so scared that you are going be kicked out China so that you had to go back your hometown working as a tight-pants gay bar waiter instead of a English teacher?

Ain't cool, eh?

Anonymous said...

....To all britons,I'm not assualting your queen....

You mean that weird-daily-hat-change-dunno-how-to-get-her -kids-straight-old-bag?

fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff said...

Humanaught,

1. i dont care about Mao at all,
why you think i'm taking about mao?

2. we are talking about woman and sex here, arent we? since queen is woman too, i think i'm right on the track.

3. it's his freedom to decribe himself as a saint, it's my freedom to prove he is inconsistant..., i have fun here, what to do with thou?


4. if he really dislikes the topics here, maybe he can change configuration to disallow comments,
i doubt a language teacher has ability to do so...

5. if he does 4, he thus become Mao's disciple...

6. I have freedom to choose name as you do. you can't force ppl to think your way, can u?

ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff said...

those english teachers the bum seem never understand this,

ChinaBounder says he is open minded,
he hints, and many of you also say, he or you don't care how many times his and your mother were f..ked by others.

strange enough, when you talk about your mother's big pussy, you all try to avoid the word fuck, why? isnt that she is fucked a matter of fact?

why choose to avoid fuck?
I know english language becomes
more and more indirect, but do you really think have sex and fuck are same?

fuck is fuck, do admit the fact, subway beggars, are you going to deny facts?

I also don't care how many time his mother or your mother were fucked.

My only concern is when i say "hai, your mother is fucked woman" to you open minded guys i won't be physically attacked.

but as time goes, more posts post,
i really doubt you open minded men will hit me.

that proves you feel offensive when someone mentioned your mom, sister and queen was dug a hole in the body.

question is, why do you feel offensive since you are "open minded"?

ffffffffffffffffffffffffffff said...

i don't understand why queen and queen mother are not relevant to this topic.

she is woman, she has sex request,
she will be attracted by afftractive romantic men, she will enjoy of sextual pleasure, she has bosom, she has vagina, she can emit spur...lots of fun...

she is perfect for an able man...

and most important, she does not nned to be a virgin when she married. That greatly reduces man's sin feeling when having sex with her.

It's really romantic to have sex with queen and royal family...

The teachers, try to chanllege your limit to get one of them. You arent telling you are secondary citizen in your country and not able to get her, are you? if you cannt even make a simple dash into her pussy, that means you are less attractive than the ones she chooses, shame on you, shame on you of being less attractrive.

be confidence and brave like your culture always encouranges you, charge, horseman.

if you fail,I will present my sincere condolence your libido.

Pedant said...


Possible Asian "small penis" gene identified in Japanese sample

fffffffffffffffffffffffff said...

Pedant you made the point,man.


Possible Briton's "smaller penis" won't satisfy the queen while huns', vandals' and goths' will.

please feel safe, there are more and more nationarized "bigger penis" will reisde in brion and maybe the next king or queeen will be more colorful than what now he or she is...

javascript:void(0) said...

thanks to ChinaBinder, all english teachers the beggar, british queen, queen mother...

I guess i'm now a little bit infamous
or famous in english teacher community in shanghai..

thank you all, thanks. bow...

bye for now. I have to admit i've used your blog to practice how to insult a "noble" man.

are you sure you are clever enough not used by those chinese girls as a tool or sex tool?

Chen said...

fffffff,

We see you are trying to make a point here but you are wasting a lot of time and space. Your English is not very good and your quasi-arguments have little effect because you keep posting the same semi-coherent stream of consciousness. You don't like Chinabounder. We get it.

And stick with Chinese if you want to continue sharing. That way I can see if you're ideas make any more sense in your own native tongue.

And frankly, though I'm loathe to admit it, I'm am absolutely fascinated in what the endgame to all of this will be.

Anonymous said...

As a first generation Chinese physician working in one of the best hospitals in America. I can give you statistics about men's dicks. Appraently, you took those girls' compliments as facts. How pathetic!
It's obvious to us (not only Chinese) that some of those foreign English teachers are losers in their own countries. In modern days, people give more respect to brains than dicks (not mention that your dick isn't so great). Because as human beings, we are the only intelligent creature in the world. Yes, China has a lot of issues. But from Mao to Yao, we have come a long way and we are still marching forward. But through you, it gradually dawns on me why your country is going down and fading away from the center stage of the world affairs.

HUGE PENIS said...

going down...

LITTLE PUSSY said...

I love huge penis.What about U?

fffffffffffffffffffffff said...

i said i'll leave.

wasting time, dont think so.

wasting space, maybe.

feel it's useless to argue with him about Mao and moral issues.

The devil can only be overcomed by
devil.

To be honest, ChinaBounder makes his point, chanting what CPC says will never convince him.

he is man, there is no doubt that he won't be wishing that his wife is not a virgin.

He said he does not care, but he did not say he is wishing she is not.

reading human's mind is fun. whatever language is indifferent.

cathy said...

Sex stories are sex stories. Too much comments on China society will ruin this blog site. Mr Bounder as a foreigner, he can have his understanding about China. But, this understanding is just confined in his environment. He is dealing poeple (especially women) in this very environment. If you have not spent 20 years in China, and traveled every corner in this huge country, you wont really know it.

Be fair; Be neutral. Be less-criticizing.

Mr. Bounder is a good writer. I enjoy reading his writings. I skip paragraphs of his comments on China and Chinese people. Mostly These comments look sharp and smart but ... somehow naive ... or, premature.

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The highlight is this little comment box, especially those vicious attacks on england, britain, the UK and (bless her) the queen. someone should have a word with these cruel posters and tell them that the majority of brits (especially those overseas) don't give a monkeys' about the UK's standing in the modern world, nor the sexual orientation of its present and former queens. while a foreigner insulting chairman mao may cause all sorts of righteous indignation in China, doing the same to the english queen would cause nothing more than a giggle of agreement because laughing at ourselves and our 'leaders' is what we do best, try it china. it would make you feel much better.

anyway, that's my one and only visit here. i will be off. good luck to all the lovers out there. all the ladies and all the psychology professors who need to think about how they can be more attractive to ladies (rather than trying to stop those pesky foreign men from being attractive to their 'sisters' and 'mothers').

10:58 AM

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I hope more Chinese would speak in this way instead of the thoughtless attack and curse.

Anonymous said...

posted at 6:50am, wow, that's so early. ChinaBounder must be a very hard-working blogger. Maybe he is bull-shitting on the pc aside while another chick is sleeping on his bed.

Foobear said...

I had so hoped that China had outgrown the racist xenophobia that has been so prevalent throughout its history.

This so-called "Professor" Zhang in a past life would have been one of the fists of righteous harmony, running around the countryside beheading Christian missionaries.

It's nice to see that mindless, knee-jerk, inflamatory, racist reactionary statements can still meet with such approval in China.

A white man is sleeping with Chinese women. Kill him!

All of you who are posting like this should take a deep look at yourselves and wonder if you would not be one of those people murdering innocent men, women, and children a hundred years ago.

Anonymous said...

I just want to seduce this bitch's wife, sisters, daughter and maybe his mother. I can also give them big satisfaction. Under my fucking, they certainly will be in a great happy. I have strong sex skill, and also big penis.

foobear said...

Fffff said:

Possible Briton's "smaller penis" won't satisfy the queen while huns', vandals' and goths' will.

please feel safe, there are more and more nationarized "bigger penis" will reisde in brion and maybe the next king or queeen will be more colorful than what now he or she is...


Ffff, your statements are incoherent and your arguments nonexistent. You should try to make a point.

he is man, there is no doubt that he won't be wishing that his wife is not a virgin.

This I think is the core of it. You're a sexist hypocrite, like the so-called "Professor" Zhang. Men can have as much sex as they want, including at brothels thinly disguised as barbershops, but women have to remain "pure" until marriage.

To answer your question, no, I'd greatly prefer an experienced woman than a "pure" women in my honeymoon bed.

Be honest, the real sin CB is committing is that he's talking about the truth, which is something that Chinese people have always been culturally uncomfortable with. Chinese people are more or less fine with their college students being promiscuous, what they are not comfortable with is people talking about it.

External harmony is more important than truth.

Anonymous said...

Its not about racist xenophobia. No one criticizes a foreigner who takes on a Chinese girl treats her well. There are a lot of blogs of foreigners who marries Chinese women, they are not subjected to any witchhunt.

The fact is Chinabounder can't go around into other people's country doing what he likes and anything he wishes.

Its like a murderer criticising a country for the lack of euthenesia laws.

Anonymous said...

一个外国人,在中国并没有做违法之事,却招致大家的抨击。
他不过把他的艳历讲出来给大家听。这又算什么?
说实话,那位上海的教授的确比较短见,而且视野很狭窄。心胸并不宽广。
我在澳洲,和几个当地女孩子睡过觉。我讲给我当地的朋友听,他们并没有对我有什么不好的印象。
这位英国人对中国的认识和体验还是比较深刻的。毕竟他是旁观者。
而且,可以看得出来,他对中国的关心程度胜过这里的很多中国人。
你们还要骂什么呢?????

Anonymous said...

theres laowai who has slept with far more chinese/japanese/asian women than u could ever imagine...but they wouldnt brag about it, well, maybe they will, but never on a online china blog where millions of easily-provoked hotheads chinamen can get access to. im not kiddin, ive read similar articles of Profession Zhang's on several websites/bbs already(oh they are in Chinese)...

chinabounder u r not all that smart than any of those small-penis monadic chinamen who u laughed at. i guess one thing u didnt learn from ur chinese sex partners ---- "枪打出头鸟"
theres rules, u play it, u obey it, otherwise u done.
never mind, u'll learn ur lesson real fast

Anonymous said...

我敢打赌,chinabounder对中国历史的认识比你们中很多愤青都要深刻。
还有他那种对事物的探究精神,是我们应该学习的。
中国人太情绪化。真的。缺乏西方人那种就事论事,穷根究低的作风。
还有,在对话中,保持绅士风度是中国人做不到的。亚里士多德说过,我虽然不同意你的说法,但是我要誓死捍卫你说话的权利。

至于那位上海教授的做法,的确太左。你那狭隘的民族主义贻害无穷。

Anonymous said...

Dear China Bounder:

U and Professor Zhang are doing exactly the same, accusing and cursing each other in ur own blogs. The difference is that Zhang stood out in daylight, so that you can so conveniently throw ur criticism on his profession, his school and indeed the whole Chinese education system.

I encourage u to go ahead to publicize ur true name, address and the name of the school u work for. U did such a great job breaking local moral code and bragging about it. U must be ready to take the risks.

Come on, freedom of speech and freedom of dick never come free in this “fucked-up” country. U knew that, u challenged that, now please take the responsibilities

ILIKETOWATCH

Anonymous said...

Chinabounder seems to be quite the intolerant fellow. He can't suffer even the most insignificant of cultural differences without exploding into mouth-frothing rage and lunatic ranting. Part of it is pure ignorance, such as his laughable interpretation of "Chinese compatriots", which he undoubtedly does not know is a weak translation of the Chinese word tongzhi, a word simply used to address a broad audience and completely devoid of the meaning he prescribed to it. Such is the way of the racist and the halfwit, not knowing much at all but perpetually finding evil in the actions of others where there sometimes is none.

毛澤東 said...

一個外國人,毫無利己的動機,把中國人民的性解放事業當作他自己的事業,這是什麽精神?這是國際主義的精神,這是民主自由的精神,每一個中國共産黨員都要學習這種精神。

……

我們要和一切資本主義國家的無産垃圾聯合起來,要和日本的、英國的、美國的、德國的、意大利的以及一切資本主義國家的無産垃圾聯合起來,才能打倒帝國主義,解放我們的民族和女人,解放世界的民族和女人。

……

一個人penis有大小,但只要有這點精神,就是一個高尚的人,一個純粹的人,一個有道德的人,一個脫離了低級趣味的人,一個有益于人民的人。

Anonymous said...

CHECK IT OUT …
http://whoischinabounder.blogspot.com/


1. Lives in Shanghai. (Came to China six years ago.)
2. From England. (Also spent time in Germany and Australia)
3. 34 years old (born 1971).
4. Teaches English in various universities.
5. Knows Jiao Tong university well.
6. Gives his msn/email to students at the end of classes.
7. Lives on or near Huai Hai Road.
8. Reasonably good spoken/written Chinese.
9. Email address: chinabounder@gmail.com (Spam it, if you wish.)
10. Employment in England has included: working for several years for H4H; working in an environmental pressure group at Westminster; working in a project related with mental health.


PLEASE ASSIST by adding the relevant blog passage to the below FOOTNOTES:


2.
LITTLE BLACK BOOK -- Friday, August 25, 2006
“… she reminded me of a girlfriend back in England … And this particular girlfriend back in England was a long term part of my life, and the years I spent in Germany and then Australia.”

3. LITTLE BLACK BOOK -- Friday, August 25, 2006 -- (as he wrote in the COMMENTS section)
“I love my parents because they have raised me, not because 34 years ago my Dad fucked my Mum.” ; and,
He has earlier stated he was born in the year of the dog – (1971 = yr of the dog).

7.
SEDUCING CHRISTINE #4 -- Saturday, August 19, 2006
“So after eating we walked along Huai Hai Road back to my place.”

8.
Six yrs in China + Frequent use of Chinese in blog.

9.
As recorded in his “Profile” for his website.

10. LITTLE BLACK BOOK -- Friday, August 25, 2006 -- (as he wrote in the COMMENTS section)
“I worked for several years for H4H, as well as in an environmental pressure group at Westminster. I also did a stint helping in a project related with mental health.”



CHECK IT OUT …
http://whoischinabounder.blogspot.com/

Anonymous said...

it turns out that sex and shanghai IS the MOST FUN blog ever! lol seriously i cant wait to see this disaster

Foobear said...

Yet another anonymous coward said:
theres rules, u play it, u obey it, otherwise u done.
never mind, u'll learn ur lesson real fast


Like I said, Chinese people do all the shady things, they just don't talk about them.

External harmony takes precedence over the truth.

It's this off and on relationship the Chinese have with truth that CB is taking issue with, IMO.

Mao is great, Mao is keen, let us all eat Mao ice cream.

Anonymous said...

If CB dun like it, then he can bloody leave the country.

Who does CB think he is? The Playboy of China? The Tom Paine of China?

Anonymous said...

It makes me laugh when some people talk about “anonymous cowards” here. Yeah, China Bounder is a very brave ID to open fire on Professor Zhang, who listed the real name, school and full contact address in his blog, if that’s what u mean

ILIKETOWATCH

Hesiem said...

Ridiculous amessages again. What are you guys thinking about? Those girls want to have fun and Chinabounder is scoring high... so what? It's happening everywhere in Shanghai, Beijing, Shenzhen, and elsewhere in China. People want to have fun. Let them have fun and live the kind of life they have chosen. And if you don’t like what’s in the content of this blog, then just read something else.

Anonymous said...

Well CB has offended every body in China more or less.

Every posts he will go about saying how flirting and seductive China girls are - Offend China girls

Then he will write how boring, unexciting, etc Chinese guys are - Offend Chinese guys

Then he will write how ignorant Chinese People are - Offend Chinese People.

That makes 2 times the offence.

And you wonder what's the fuss?

For heaven's sake, yes, even if he doesn't like the ways and habits and thinking of Chinese, give them some respect. You don't go around to other people's houses without showing them some face.

Sure people like to enjoy themselves. He have been in China for a long time, surely he knows that writing such things and indeed doing such things is like preaching Christianity to Afghans.

If he wants to be a hero, he can go ahead and be hounded out of the country, that is if he