Dinner with Mona was as I was sure it would be.
We’d met, and first she’d shown me her dorm, which she had to keep on so that she could pretend to be living there – for if the university found she had rented her own apartment she would be expelled. The dorm was not quite so spartan as others I have seen, such as those at Shang Wai, though was still mostly a big poured concrete box, with correctional facility overtones.
And then to the wet market, where we made the film I had planned, a large crowd of onlookers staring as we did so. That done, it was still early, so we returned to her flat and watched a couple of episodes of some sexy American sitcom which she’d heard about but never seen. A good choice of viewing, given my plans for the evening.
I said she would soon have to pay what we’d agreed for me bringing her these DVDs – the pay being a kiss, which we had teased about on MSN. She was still a little nervous, not yet warmed, so she blushed and murmured, and I did not press for the kiss. There would be time for it later, and I knew that the sexy language of the show we were watching would help change the mood. Finding it for her was easy; the DVD pirates are one of the city’s many wonders. Just today, for example, I found a copy of ‘Le Comte Ory,’ one of my favorite operas. Rossini suits my essentially ephemeral character.
And so when we were cooking I took the kiss, holding her under the chin and tilting her lips towards me. Still a little shy, she did not meet me with her eyes, but the response of her lips was quite enough to show how the evening would end. This kiss was spiced by the loose, shapeless housecoat thing she’d put on while cooking, having modestly closed her door as she changed out of the showy dress she’d worn to meet me. Even though this garment would well become a 50 year old Shanghai housewife with big hair, on her slender body it fell forward enough to reveal that she was naked under but for panties.
And after eating and washing up (more romantic than you might think, with its chances for caresses, warm water, suds) we made love. Kissing first, gently nibbling and caressing her; and like Tulip, like Lucy, soft breath in her ear made her wilder.
Blowing in a woman’s ear, kissing and caressing her there, feels cheesy to me; feels like the kind of thing the guy who has read his ‘Guide to a Woman’s Erogenous Zones’ would do. It does not feel authentic – it is too clichéd, too obvious. But it works.
I eased my shirt over my head and then slipped the hem of her dress upward, first to see pink latticed and bowed panties, clearly chosen for their look; and then over her belly up to her breasts. Petite, and, thus, for me, most erotic. Big, broad aureoles, wide enough indeed to be out of proportion to the size of the breast. But cute, cute. So I played there a while before kissing back down; then she took off the dress and I the rest of my clothes – then her panties for the first glimpse of her pussy. Compact, tight, needed a trim on top. And so the oral, which I dearly love, as did she – but far more controlled, restrained than Lucy. Her passion was deeper, more locked, sighs and sips.
This country, this society being what it is, I had wondered if she too was a virgin, and while her control here, lack of nervousness, made me think not, that opinion was balanced by some seeming inexperience elsewhere as we cavorted. And while I was sure she enjoyed it, I was not sure I made her come.
It was a fine night with her, sexy and wholly satisfying, though not quite so wild as Lucy was the first time. Mona was not so unreservedly passionate and, a little to my irritation, told me, ‘It’s my special time of the month.’ I was prepared for this at least, clued into it in part by the lengthy amount of time she spent in the bathroom before we made love but more by the bloodied towel I saw hidden half around the u-bend. Later, when we were talking, I leveraged this into an accolade. When she’d said it was her ‘special time’ I’d said I knew; after we’d made love, passion spent, she now wanted to know how. So I told her she had seemed tired and a little pale yesterday, and even that she had walked a little wearily – which was true, indeed, though at the time I did not draw the conclusion that she had her period. But anyhow, the tale I now told her made me think me ‘很厉害.’
The next morning, she had to get up at 6 for the mandatory exercise her martinet university insists on, and then a lecture at 8.20. Her university day was over at 9.30 a.m, an hour when it should not even have begun.
It’s little wonder China is still a third-rate country. It will never be anything more than the world’s service shop until it stops treating its people as commodities.
I dozed until about 9 and then sat on her pink-covered bed in her pink-walled Pudong apartment typing what was the original of this entry until she came home. Having just been going over the night before in my mind, I was feeling ready and horny, and keen to see her lovely body again, those cute breasts. I put her in my lap, kissed and caressed, undressed and ate her… as before, I was not sure if she quite orgasmed; for tho’ she sure enjoyed it, there was no clear peak, no obvious climax, no pushing away of my head as with Gloria or other lovers; and so either my skill lacking or she is still an ingénue that way.
However, after that, she did not really want me to penetrate her, telling me she was tired. But I guessed that more likely she meant sore, for, physically, she was the slightest women I had been with. Maybe half the bulk of me, at most. And while this made her a great lover, easy to position, lithe and responsive, it also meant that now, the next morning, she somewhat ached.
And so I made no fuss over it, was polite and understanding. ‘You’re a very gentleman’ she said – and I did not correct her either on the sentiment or the grammar, though both were wrong.
We dozed an hour, 90 minutes, and then I got dressed and she walked me to the bus stop.
Now going to the bus stop might seem the action of a cheapskate. But that is a too-hasty interpretation. Taking the bus here is, in fact, a rather positive thing to do. In general, Chinese people are often surprised when a foreigner can talk Chinese, and even more surprised if he or she can read it. Locals thus expect foreigners to travel almost exclusively by cab, in part because of the language problems (overcome by the Chinese person telling the cabbie where to go) and in part because they believe money is no object to expats. Taking a bus, therefore, shows a certain familiarity and ease with Chinese society, and that goes down very well. For while the moneyed life of many expats is a matter of aspiration and envy to local society, it is also a slight sticking point, an angle of envy, contention. Showing respect for the culture, being willing to live like a local, and able to speak and read Chinese some – all this helps.
And so taking the bus by oneself is a good thing; it shows that one is willing to make oneself a part of society. Naturally, when with the woman in question, one takes a cab.
Once on the bus I turned on my mobile. I’d left it off the night after it rang when I was between her thighs. That time, we both ignored it, and I then turned it off when we were lying prone on the bed after making love.
And now, on the bus, as I turned it back on, an sms from Tulip arrived, saying she had called me but I was turned off or engaged, and asking was I busy this afternoon, how about lunch?
This was most convenient, as right then I was heading to Lujiazui, right near her office. And so I arranged to wait for her by the Orient Pearl Tower, a hideous monstrosity of a building, all communist boasting and ugliness, with the touts and tourists peering at me as at a strange fish.
I remember thinking as I sat waiting for her of what to tell her. Should I explain my switched-off phone by saying, ‘I was in a class?’ Or should I say, ‘I was seeing a friend’? Or should I say ‘I was seeing a ‘friend.’”? Now, sure, to let her know I was seeing her right after another woman could be taken as an insult. But also she is a little intrigued by this free and open sexuality of mine, and I think hearing about it gives her a charge, a thrill, and that’s something worth aiming for. And so some measure of honesty might have been fruitful.
But one must not plan these things too carefully. And so I simply decided to wait and see, play it by ear.
Right on time she rolled up, at our usual meeting spot, in her cute car; a sigh and catch in my heart as she did so, as I stood to walk toward her, open the door, take in the scent of the car’s perfumed interior, sight of her lovely profile…
86 comments:
I think it's time you start including pictures (with or without headshots) to validate your conquests. I mean, I want to believe you, but for all we know, you're dating a bevy of chinese fat chicks.
Come on Bounder, it's time to start building some creds. A little nipple here, and little ass there -- that's all we're asking.
yeah, right on!, what he said
We want to believe you really bad. I'm already moving from Beijing to Shanghai because of you! Get ready for some competition.
Dude, if you can't get laid in BJ you're not going to be a draw in Shanghai. Not ever honkey is a draw for Chinese women, you know, just like in the West. Time to loosen the wallet, friend. I hear the prostitutes in China are reasonable. Of course, if you're only here as an English langauge tutor you're probably not making more than, say, 4000rmb/month, but consider out-of-town girls (there's some natty looking Sichuan girls selling trinkets in traditional costume round about who might appreciate a few extra $), or trade a hand job for a couple hours speaking English.
Yeah, treating people as commodities, there's no excuse for it.
I think you are actually Chinese, not a Westerner at all. You don't write like a true English speaker. Perhaps this is even a calculated attempt to stir up anti-western sentiment among young Chinese blog readers.
the deviator…I think it's time you start including pictures
Sure, it would be fun to add pictures and a way to massage my ego. But I can’t do it. Posting a picture, even without a headshot, is a violation of the woman’s privacy. I might even go so far as to say it would be a kind of online rape.
I can write about the women in words, since the words are my own. Words are not things, not reality; they are instead merely my interpretation of what happened.
But a picture is reality, and belongs to the woman it is of as much as it belongs to me… to post it would be a far more fundamental betrayal of the women I am involved with than that I have already made by writing this blog.
And, besides, even if I did post pictures you would be none the more sure that I had really slept with these women; it is but the work of a moment to find suitably amateur, unidentifiable shots and post them as my own.
...but for all we know, you're dating a bevy of chinese fat chicks
Indeed I could be. But if you have been in China for any length of time you will know that ‘fat chicks’ are still rather rare, certainly compared to the West.
anonymous..…I hear the prostitutes in China are reasonable
Indeed they are. But what’s the fun in a hooker? Well… ok... plenty… but there’s more fun in the chase. The most sexy part of the game comes over dinner, when you still do not know how the evening will end. Maybe even before dinner – when you’re preparing for dinner, looking forward to the date – wondering how it will play out.
…Of course, if you're only here as an English langauge tutor you're probably not making more than, say, 4000rmb/month
Perhaps you are at the wrong school. It’s not too hard to make that much in a week, and still have time over for socializing.
In any case, it is not about money; there is no need to ‘loosen the wallet’ beyond a nice dinner, which is inexpensive in China. Today's young Chinese woman is looking for something other than a brash big spender.
Anonymous... I think you are actually Chinese, not a Westerner at all.
Believe as ye list.
Bounder, you must have read only the first sentence of my comments above (and I imagine you'll only get to the first one of this, so it's a long one...), concerning the cheapness of prostitutes in China, since they were aimed at the guy who claimed he had decided to move to Sha from BJ because of your blog. I have no problem with your writing, in fact I think it closer to the reality than most Chinese think. They have schizophrenic beliefs, that Chinese women are somehow more clever than Western men and are tricking them into citizenship in other countries, at the same time there was a bill debated in the recent Chinese "Congress" about putting a tax on foreign men marrying Chinese women (in addition to making them sign a contract that they will support the woman for life if they divorce). My own experience is pretty much like yours, though I had had much more experience with western women than you claim and so had a leg up on the seduction thing ;-) Plus I'm American and, frankly, it's like walking a pussy-gauntlet everywhere WE go in the world...right.
Peace.
…Bounder, you must have read only the first sentence of my comments above
In fact I did read the whole comment. Apologies if I sounded dismissive of what you said. That was not my intention.
I tend to think the marrying-for-passport syndrome is not as common as it used to be. Certainly, when the ages of the people involved are not greatly beyond what would be acceptable in the West (say, a ten or fifteen year gap) I think there are often other dynamics going on in the relationship than mere passport hunting. In the case of a younger woman and a much older man, perhaps the heart of the relationship is more likely to be money / nationality related.
But of course it would be naïve to think that the passport is not an issue. However, in some cases younger women are refreshingly direct about this. Mona, for example, straight out asked about a marriage of convenience with me to secure a UK passport. It was more of a passing idea with her than anything serious, but to me it showed that our relationship was not based on the ulterior, hidden motive of citizenship.
CHINABOUNDER:
I AM A CHINESE IN SHANGHAI READING YOUR BLOG BY CHANCE. THANKS FOR TAKING THE TIME TO TELL US HOW POOR AND SILLY YOU THINK CHINESE PEOPLE ARE, AND HOW PITCHY SOME OF THE CHINESE WOMEN ARE. LET ME TELL YOU MY COMMENTS HERE:
YOU ARE A LOSER, A PIECE OF TRASH, AND A DISGUSTING RAPIST TAKING THE ADVATANGES OF WOMEN'S WEAKNESSES. UNDER GOD'S MERCEY, I WISH YOU COULD GROW UP AND SOMEHOW ACT LIKE A CIVIL MANHOOD BUT I DOUBT YOU WOULD EVER BE ABLE TO MAKE IT, LOSER!
I DO NOT EVEN WANT TO WASTE MY CURSES ON YOU. I AM PRETTY SURE THAT U WILL DESTROY YOURSELF ONE WAY OR THE OTHER VERY SOON BY KEEP DOING THESE SINS.
LASTLY, LET ME GIVE YOU MY GREETING IN CHINESE, 你是个失败者,骗子和强奸犯!PARDON MY FRENCH, BUT YOU'VE EARNED IT BY YOURSELF.
I’m very sorry you feel that way. I do not think Chinese people are silly. I have never said this. I live in China. My life is here. All my friends are local people, and warm, generous, loving and giving people they are too. In many ways China is a wonderful, exciting country.
But I have criticisms of China and I do not hide them. China has many faults, not least among which is the fact most people are wholly ignorant of this country’s history. I know, without a doubt, that I am better informed about the history of China since 1949 than you are. China is an overly nationalist nation, with too much arrogance yet (and this is an interesting paradox) not enough pride. Chinese people claim to love their country, but treat it like a waste bin, for example.
I have just as many criticisms of my own country; its own forms of arrogance, its racism, and its government’s willingness to ignore the wishes of the people. And when it comes to history, my country has been one of the most corrupt and evil there is. Though today the UK is a minor player – trivial, even – in world affairs, in the past, ‘we’ created more world suffering than most other nations. As I expect you know, the UK brought extensive pain and misery to China. This is something ‘we’ have never apologized for, and barely teach in schools.
But since I am living in China, talking about my home nation is beside the point. I am here; this is what I write about.
I respect your right to be angry. In some measure that anger is justified. And I am glad to see you did not say, ‘If you do not like China, go home.’ That type of comment is simply childish.
But I’d suggest you choose your words more carefully. To call me a ‘rapist’ trivializes rape. And to talk about `god’s mercy’ is misguided. It is patently obvious there is no god. Those who believe in god are ignorant and willfully blind.
I feel you should be careful about what you call a ‘sin’; what I do is not at all respectable, but it is not really a sin. A sin, if you must use the word, would be something like the Chinese government’s decision to lie about the SARS outbreak a couple of years ago. That lie let the disease spread to Hong Kong and thence around the world. People across the globe died because ‘your’ government lied. (But of course they are not really ‘your’ government at all – they are, rather, a gang of crooks and cheats who have simply seized power and treat the Chinese people with all the arrogance and contempt of any emperor.)
In the case of this blog entry, I hope you will take the time to consider that the woman involved, Mona, knew exactly what she was getting into. She is no longer my lover, but we are very close friends, and we have few secrets. Indeed, I will probably tell her about this blog in due course. My relationship with her is more honest and straightforward than perhaps you give me credit for.
Chinabound:
Your role of an English language teacher makes a lot of hey in you game of words. I guess you have been practicing this a lot in front of the girls who somehow discovered your little secrets. You are doing a fine job in cheating your own conscience (if they were ever there), and you can continue to do that if it makes you feel less guilty, or even intellectually superior than those you think as brain-washed and hopeless Chinese.
Fine job indeed. Let me speak it out for you in a more honest and straightforward way so you could feel even better. “There is no god in the real world so I will not be punished for whatever I did. Do not scare me by the name of god, I have nothing to fear about.” “Big sins (like “your” government did to your people) are sins, and small sins like cheating women’s love and body are not sins (well, what I did to these girls are just trivial and are really not sins at all).” “I tell a woman I love her only as a means to fuck her. After I fucked and get tired of her, I could skillfully let her know that I am seeing other women. She will be hurt, which is unfortunate, but I apologized as a PROPER ENGLISH GENTLEMAN, and they, being kind, loving, generous and giving, will gradually accept this fact and appreciate my way of doing things.” “I always try to be honest and straight forward to a woman after I slept with her, so in that sense my honesty deserves more credit from you.”
How does that sound?
By the way, we Chinese people owes 1.3 billion thanks to you for your preaching on all those Chinese cultural and political defects. How sharp and smart you are to be able to identify that we are overly nationalists ignorant of our own evil history! However, your preaching or in some ways, accusations, are just your self-pleasing and help no one at all.
As a Chinese, it is sad to admit that a majority of people in this country is still living in a artificially created Matrix, where everything appears to be reasonable and every right answer to every question is already there. The illusion of “everything is great” created under this Matrix has been so strong and so overwhelming that many people get used to it and are dependent on it. However, I have no doubt that there will be more and more wake-ups, and they together will eventually break up this Matrix and set all free. This could take long time and big efforts. During this process, you white guys in China could at least set yourselves as a good example of why and how the real world really makes better sense than a Matrix. If “our” government is setting an example that a justified real world is all about the emperor and his slaves, Chianbound, and your gangs, are setting an example to those young Chinese girls that “there are no moral bottom lines in life”, “being royal to your significant other is stupid”, “no one should take responsibility”, “its not respectable but I do it anyway”, and “teachers all sleep with their young female students”.
Thank you for your great contribution to the Chinese people!
Yours Sincerely
Todd
http://blog.sina.com.cn/u/49eaa5170100052d
I meant to say "loyal", not "royal".
OMG u wrote soooo much. and what a load of shit it is too...
sad sad people...
wake up u japs, your country has no navel army anymore after u lost the war.
Hey dude. I am a Chinese girl.I won't look at you the second time in reality. You slept with these cheap women and sooooo pleased, then covered your eyes to say"what's the fun to sleep with hookers?", They are hookers. They probably sleep with other guys right after getting off your bed.
By the way, the surgery to fix the virginity is soooo cheap and any hookers can do it, since most hookers think it can help to cheat more money. In China, It is not a news that university girls partime hookers. Physically happy and fast money, why not? Some guys have big dicks may get discounts, like donkeys and you.but it doesn't change the fact that you are a hooker caller.
I am a Chinese girl, beautiful and extremed well-educated(I have bachelor and master degrees from top 10 universities in the US), if you are really charming, go find somebody like me.Otherwise, it' s nothing to brag just because you slept with bunch of cheap hookers.
I feel sorry to those naive hookers and I feel sorry to you that you are cheated by cheap hookers. How ignorant you are. Excuse me, I should just leave you in your fantasy and climax to death..........
My country is a world service shop, it's the fact. Actually most what you said are true, the dictatorship, the less regulations less protections to people, the ignorance of Shanghainese, the loose of those hookers, the crazy nationalism, the shameless government,the lack knowleges of sex... Most people know exactly what our country is, do you think only you has a ball on your shoulder called head and other people simply have balls? It seems your Chinese is not good enough to let you talk to locals deeply.
Once you began to judge others by your standards , you are making a big mistake. Just like George Bush and his puddle follower judged the Iraq by western standands, look the mess of Middle East they caused today.
Good luck to your jouney in China, Be cautious to the AIDS since you are surrounding by a bunch of loose women.
I have heard too much about you. You have no respect on others. But hey, what goes around comes around. Somedays, when you lose your strength on crap, your time will come. P.S. is your mother pround of you?
His mom probably doesn't he is a hooker-fucker. His mom doesn't know he is a whore. His mom doesn't know he sleeps around.
Maybe I am wrong,maybe his mom knew all he has done and proud of him because that might be his family's tradition, who knows?
fuck you. you go away. you are a real rubbish of UK. you are a bastard
let all Chinese men come to fuck your mouther, your grandma and all the pussy in your family
bmpc said...…Hey dude. I am a Chinese girl.I won't look at you the second time in reality
How would you know, since the me you would meet in reality would be a wholly different ‘me’ than you see here?
It’s a shame you equate sex with immorality.
This conservative attitude towards sex is one of the reasons why Chinese women are so unhappy. Chinese society (which like all societies is shaped and run by men) tells women that they should have an attitude like yours, not out of any real respect for their wellbeing, but out of a sense of control. In general men are scared of women who are sexually confident, and (sorry though I am to say it) Chinese men are more scared than Western men, not that either group (viewed as a whole) treats women well.
I am surprised that someone who claims to have the education you have is on the side of the oppressors, not the oppressed. Your choice of the term ‘loose women’ saddens me. You have brought into the system of control. Chinese women, as a population, are one of the most unhappy in the world. I think you need to look at the men of your own culture more carefully rather than me. I am just one tiny bad apple in a huge vat of rotten apples.
Virginity, for what it is worth, is no big deal to me. Indeed, if I did wish to settle down, I would be unlikely to marry a virgin. As I expect you are aware, it is Chinese society (along with others) that fetishizes virginity – another layer in the system of control.
Do not put up language as a barrier to understanding. It is an impediment, yes, but not a major one. My Chinese is rather limited, true, but I can understand a conversation in the language. In any case, most of the people I meet speak good English. I assure you they do not know what your country is. Seventy percent of them still admire Mao, who did just as much evil as Hitler or Hirohito. I am fairly sure your knowledge of China is not as good as you think it is. Tell me, for example, when the CPC was founded.
I have already said elsewhere my country, the UK, is not a very responsible world citizen today and has been wholly criminal for much of its history. I have no problem in looking at the UK with open eyes. Sexism is common there, too, as is racism, violence and crime. But this is not a blog about the UK.
Incidentally, one of the signs of being ‘extremely well-educated’ is never feeling the need to point it out.
Chinese said... …let all Chinese men come to fuck your mouther, your grandma and all the pussy in your family
Nicely put. I see Fudan University’s policy of seeking the best and brightest is paying real dividends.
Christ will put a curse on you for your qiuck death~~~~~~~~~~~
Your reply makes me laugh,so pompous, arrogant and like a "frog down the well"(since you know chinese, you should know this idiom).You probably are "a very gentleman" (by hooker mona)in real life, but you are too old for me,papa. regardless your education(probably not very good), I wouldn't consider you at all, that's why. You have nothing I want, your white skin(get old faster),your great british passport(oops), your pocket(might as clean as whistle),what else left?
I have dated Chinese guys(obviously),white and black guys(not Arabic yet, not a racist, just not many Arabic in US),and I only date smart,charming and real gentlemen,good sense of humor will be a big plus. I didn't see any of these qualities on you.
"It’s a shame you equate sex with immorality. " How funny! Now I know how your brain works. You assume an non-existing proposition,then punch it as hard as possible.You assume I equate sex with immorality, you assume I am as conservative as most Chinese women you met.What's your supporting evidence? because I condemned you that makes me a "sex conservationist"?
I have never been to Britian, but since your prime minister is the "puddle" of George Bush(according to Americans), I assume your society try hard to be US.In US, child abuse is felony. prostitution is illegal. also here in the US, whores, sluts,cheaters, are immorally wrong.
I don't oppose one night stand, both people know they get physical pleasure,no money or emotion involved. That's fine.but you are a liar and you cheat body and "love"(I really don't think any of them truly loved you,but sometimes it's hard to tell. Who knows Anna Nicole Smith really loved her 63 yrs senior husband or not?), that makes you a cheater. In the US,there is a reality show called "cheater", you may want to google it, see the differences/similiarities between you and cheaters in the show.
I don't know how long you have been to China.Chinese society is changing dramatically, you are not changing along with the society. I said "most of your comments are correct",but that doesn't make you a "know-it-all",you are still a outsider.
"Chinese women, as a population, are one of the most unhappy in the world. " I don't know how did you get this conclusion.NEVER JUMP ANY CONCLUSION too soon.I am a chinese woman, although I am in the US, I don't feel my happiness changed for more, I could do anything I wanted when I was there. what makes Chinese women " one of the most unhappy in the world. " maybe because some hookers claimed they were in bad mood a lot. Chinese men would immediately get what that mean------the woman is showing her fragile and asking the man's caress, he would hold her, kiss her, comfort her instead fucking her. You silly allien think they are unhappy and you feel so good that "you know chinese, you even see though them".
You IQ is not good enough to make you what you think you are.
It's sad a lot of Chinese still admire Mao.It's sad a lot of Chinese are racist, It's sad a lot of Chinese automatically think "Taiwan is part of China",It's sad a lot of Chinese still trust CPC....It doesn't change the fact that you are a liar and cheater.Not related, OK?
According to "Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" CPC founded
July 1, 1921 (official)
July 23, 1921 (de facto)
The same as I learned in Chinese school.
I have no reason know china less than you do. I read both Chinese and English,I have both Chinese & American education background, and you,give me a test.How stupid.How dare you?
In US,also have the term"loose women",how could you say " brought into the system of control." loose women are loose women, no mater in East or West,don't gain any respect.You from West, a Christian dominate world, you don't know it?
English is my second language.My American friend told me "Be cautious to the AIDS" is not a right way to say it. whatever, you know what I meant.
Most people you met speak good English? Speaking and reading is two things. I spoke good English when I was there, but I didn't read well. Spoken English is very simple, easy.But how many of them can read Shakespear? Wake up, dude.Language is a barrier.It's the most powerful tool of communication."Make love", "fuck" "intercourse" "sleep" "mess around" "sex" all mean put penis into pussy. but the meaning behind the words, the emotions/feeling behind different words,what circumstances use what words,the subtle differences,
those hookers can really get it? and you really think you KNOW Chinese? thousands and millions a expressions, even me, dare not to say I really KNOW Chinese.
"Fuck" is an English word which, when used literally as a verb, means "to have sexual intercourse". It is generally considered one of the most vulgar words in the English language and a classic example of the swear word. Because of its offensive nature it is sometimes referred to as the "f-word" or "f-bomb"---From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Fuck you! Don't get excited,Don't go crazy. I will kindly leave the chance to a hooker.HaHaHaHaHaHa
All Chinese here: Don't use vulgar words like "fuck your mom" something like that,his mom's only fault is, she didn't check the quality of sperm before she gave birth, that doesn't deserve a bad sex intercourse. Hahahaha. Although his titles are all "fuck this ome fuck that", but don't degrade yourself like him.
I said "Fuck you" for these hookers,not myself,obviously.
I can not believe what u said.Not all girls want to fuck the dirty old man like u.
Dicks just wanna fuck all the time without thinking it through.
Are u raised in the barn?
poison said...
I can not believe what u said.Not all girls want to fuck the dirty old man like u.
Dicks just wanna fuck all the time without thinking it through.
Are u raised in the barn?
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Are you raised in a kennel? I already explained "I said "Fuck you" for these hookers,not myself,obviously. "
Anonymous said…Christ will put a curse on you for your qiuck death
Wow, not only do you believe in fairy tales but you haven’t even understood their message. Two egregious errors in one sentence. That’s some going.
BMPC said..You probably are "a very gentleman" (by hooker mona)in real life
You’re simply wrong, and you are not an attentive reader. If you read what I say about being a ‘gentleman’ more carefully, perhaps you will understand it a little better. The only possible conclusion I can draw from the fact that you call Mona ‘a hooker’ is that you are a prude.
"Chinese women, as a population, are one of the most unhappy in the world. " I don't know how did you get this conclusion.NEVER JUMP ANY CONCLUSION
Chinese women demonstrably are the unhappiest in the world. China has the world’s highest rate of female suicide, and is the only country in the world where female suicides outnumber male suicides. This is not merely a result of China’s large population, for though the country has 21% of the world’s people, it has 55% of the world’s female suicides.
Think about that a little before you dismiss it. Here, right here, your country, accounts for more than half of global female suicides. Think what that means.
..According to "Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" CPC founded
July1, 1921 (official) July 23, 1921(defacto). The same as I learned in Chinese school.
The CPC was founded in 1920. Wikipedia is wrong, and so are you.
It was founded by a Peking University professor called Chen Duxiu (though he is more commonly known by the Wade-Giles version of his name, Ch’en Tu-hsiu), and he himself was encouraged to create the CPC by Comintern, the Communist International, which was run by Moscow. Comintern sent a representative, Gregory Voitinski, to China in that year. Voitinski urged Chen to set up the party, which Chen began to arrange in June. He, and a small group of colleagues formally established the party in August.
Mao Zedong was not one of this group, since he was nobody at the time. He did not get involved in the party until the following year. However, the CPC cannot admit that its ‘great hero’ was overlooked during the founding of the party, and are thus forced to claim the party was created in 1921, the earliest verifiable date at which he was involved.
.. It's sad a lot of Chinese still trust CPC....It doesn't change the fact that you are a liar and cheater.Not related, OK?
I have made it explicitly clear on this blog that I am a liar and a cheat. Were you not paying attention again?
Hi david,you have to show you are honest,i.e you really have done those girls.How?By pictures at least.I believe what I have seen better than what I have heard.So is everybody.Think about that.
And congratulations.:)
I call mona "hooker" is not because I am prude, but because she is simply a hooker.Maybe a whore is more accurate, cheap whore."Like a public bike, everybody gets a ride"(from a TV show to discribe a loose woman).
I was trying to say, your judgments towards China, Chinese women&men, etc. have strong bias, because you don't really know china, because you are an outsider.That makes your judgement sounds bold and ridiculous.
You Chinese is poor, the people you have seen are in a specific group. Your attitude is arrogant, which blocked a lot of fair ways to see China.
You said Chinese people are brain-washed. I would say in western countries, the media can't cover Chinese news impartially. One of the show in CNN,would call china as "communist China" every time he has to say China. It's offensive, just like we call "imperialist britain" and it's not necessary at all. What hint the audience would get from this? One time when he wants to say "communist Cuba", but he said"Communist China". In my eyes, Cuba and China are not the same thing, but they don't care the differences.
Western media, sometimes really ridiculous. one time they talk about North Korea, but they couldn't find pictures for obvious reasons, they put Chinese troops on it! No differences between China and North Korea? they don't think so.
What you said is not new to me. I've met hundreds of thousands westerners who think of China exactly the same with you.Ignorant.
And they strongly believe what they think, and they feel so good about their media, trust so much of their media, they began to close their eyes. I have spend 20+ years in China, after I came here, a housewife who has only been to China twice, not more than 2 months told me what China looks like. How stupid and pompous that is. (I am really touched by her responsible attitude).She can do that, only because she thinks she is smarter,she knows better for everything, she is sure she knows everything about China. Her confidence is not less than yours, I am telling you. All this confidence only because her government is democratic, my government is dictatorship.
she thinks people don't know anything outside world, people maynot talk about it in order to protect themselvers, but don't mean they dont know it.Sure, how can you know it? Your poor little thing.
I noticed you are very manipulative person. China gave you this confidence. The way you manipulate these young naive girls, has no differrences to child molesters.Very calculating.
Now you want to manipulating some critics in this blog by saying "your English is good""you are well-informed",etc.Once they buy it, you would laugh in front of your laptop. I told you, your IQ is not good enough.
I know you, but you don't know me. How sad,hahahahaha
And do me a favor, although you are a teacher, please don't talk to me as if I am your student for the sake of my stomach. Thanks.
whatever u did, i got no bias, even i am on ur side, actually i am doing the same things but in ur country, i am sure and u have to admmit ur hometown got much more "hookers"just like mona u described.
"Like a communal toliet, everybody gets a pee" i like this better, so keep on penetrating any shit u desire, codger,just be careful of AIDS~otherwise i got nothing to read for entertainment, good luck, "PHD".PS: u r good porn writer, even if a little bit dispointed in ur poor sexual technic , carry on paying attention to ur porn for my blue english technic, but dont disgusted me by having sex during period any more, only japanese did so in their freak movies~
get your fat ass and your dirty cock out of the country
get your fat ass and your dirty cock out of the country
He has a skinny ass and a skinny cock, don't complement him.
Actually he has no dick, which is the fact he's used life to hide.
Oh a poor disgusting old man. A bumpkin from the island would never know his true image.
you are rubbish!!!
Fuck off.. come back to your country ... rubbish ... fuck off :-(
I fuck all western grils/ladys.. rapoe them and they enjoyed, include your mum and sisters... fuck off
wish all Mid East people kill all your rubish guys ..fuck off
bmpc said...I call mona "hooker" is not because I am prude, but because she is simply a hooker.Maybe a whore is more accurate, cheap whore."Like a public bike, everybody gets a ride"(from a TV show to discribe a loose woman).
And this simply proves what you try to deny. You believe that a woman who enjoys sex and who is confident of her sexuality is a whore. That’s sad.
Mona wanted to sleep with me, and I wanted to sleep with her. We slept together. We had fun. We are still close friends. What is your problem with this?
Your attitude is precisely what holds back equality between the genders.
You said Chinese people are brain-washed. I would say in western countries, the media can't cover Chinese news impartially.
I agree. You are right. The Western media does indeed look for the bad side regarding China news.
Perhaps you would agree with me that the Chinese media only looks for the good news – even at the cost of suppressing or denying the bad.
By careful selection of Western news sources you can find balanced reporting on China. The UK Guardian’s former China reporter, John Gittings, for example, was an exceedingly shrewd and balanced writer. I strongly recommend looking up his articles on the Guardian website. He is a writer of the very first rank.
But there are far fewer ways to get objective China news within China. And thus while I agree that the Western media is wrong-headed, minatory and partial, it is still, like democracy, better than the system China has.
One of the show in CNN,would call china as "communist China" every time he has to say China.
I mostly agree. But at the same time… China itself bangs this drum. Consider the recent CPC campaign to ‘build a socialist countryside.’ There’s empty sloganeering for the sake of it.
Western media, sometimes really ridiculous. one time they talk about North Korea, but they couldn't find pictures for obvious reasons, they put Chinese troops on it! No differences between China and North Korea? they don't think so.
Again I mostly agree. For many Western people, all Asian countries are more or less the same. That is, indeed, ignorant and offensive. But again… China’s attitude towards the Koreas is contradictory, unhelpful and misguided. And frankly, China’s attitude to North Korean refugees is criminal.
And they strongly believe what they think, and they feel so good about their media, trust so much of their media, they began to close their eyes.
Once more I agree. The press in my country is frequently bigoted, incendiary and malign. But is that because the owners of the media have these qualities – or is it because they are merely giving the people what they want, as any good businessman should? The relationship between a media and its society is complex and symbiotic, and cannot be dealt with in easy terms.
All this confidence only because her government is democratic, my government is dictatorship.
A well-worn quote, this, but ‘Democracy is the worst political system – except all the others that have been tried.’ Sure, democracy has its absurdities – give people freedom and they choose Bush; give them freedom and they choose Blair, who then disregards their wishes. But even so, the government of the US and the UK is incomparably better than the government of China.
The way you manipulate these young naive girls, has no differrences to child molesters.
In conflating these two very different situations you are simply asinine. In much the same way as China executes petty criminals and mass-murderers, you conflate grave crimes with minor infractions.
Now you want to manipulating some critics in this blog by saying "your English is good""you are well-informed",etc.Once they buy it, you would laugh in front of your laptop.
I am not quite sure what you want from me. You seem to want me to be angry and dismissive of people who respond to me. The people to whom I said the words you mention took the time to write level-headed and well-thought-out arguments, unlike you. They appear to be willing to enter into polite dialogue, and I doubt their opinions would be easily changed by me merely telling them their English is good.
Elsewhere in your replies you say that Tony Blair is a ‘poodle.’ It appears as if you are saying this in the hopes that it will humiliate me. Perhaps this is the root of the difference in our thinking. You seem to believe that in insulting certain facets of my country you are insulting all British people. In the same way you apparently believe that if I say something negative about China’s history or government or certain facets of daily life, that I am insulting all Chinese people. A wiser reader would see this. But you appear to have some trouble in separating the particular and the general.
I told you, your IQ is not good enough.
You seem obsessed by the need to boast of your superior intelligence.
A british trash,
came to China shakily,
with disappointment and chill of his own country,
caused by no respectation, jobless and lowlife;
In a developing country,
he saw some chance with his greedy and villainy.
putting his dirty, crass, dim and effete dick into cheap hookers' holes,
he saw his mother beckoning on him in Hell;
Oh, what a poor and woefully rascal,
like a nude clown in the stage only to make people laugh and disgusted with,
time and nature will bury him without any sounds and attention,
as burying cockroaches and bedbugs...
-----------by Jason
As an American of Middle Eastern descent, I resent the above comment. It reveals even more racism by the Chinese against us than it does against “standard” white people. Yeah, we fanatic barbarians can kill off the hated white people.
I must say that I love this blog. It has the best writing of any China-blog I have seen yet. Sure, the actions described are the usual fare for an English teacher in China. The women are, no doubt, beautiful and not “whores” at all. The author himself is probably ugly – if he is like so many other successful laowai womanizers in China. I might agree with all of the Chinese who have commented and called this him immoral and pathetic.
Maybe he is pathetic. Whether he is a “loser” or not doesn’t really matter though. The fact that he describes his experiences so well does matter. That is the point here. There’s no reason to debate the morality. It is simply a fact that mediocre white guys can seduce hordes of beautiful Chinese women. This fellow describes it well though. I wish I could write as well as he does. This is the only really interesting China blog. Please check out mine for a somewhat less coherent experience: http://stylites.blogsource.com/
Stylites,
I also felt it was a deeply offensive comment. But as you suggest, it says more about the commentator than it does about the blog. Thus I will let it stand.
Jason said..Oh, what a poor and woefully rascal…..
That’s rather good. But I think you should find another word than ‘effete.’ ‘Effete’ most generally means ‘feminine’ and a penis is, by definition, masculine.
chinabounder, keep the good work coming!!!
Can your blog be viewed in China?
What I want from you? obviously, like other Chinese women in your blog, I want your white wrinkled skin, your halitosis, your GB passport and your money.
It's not me that to say your PM is poodle,it's how Americans think of him.Otherwise, How could I know he is a poodle?!
I don't want to humiliate anybody, unlike you did. I am here to help you. I am trying to help you to look things from different perspectives, help you to improve yourself,then write a better blog,help you to come out from the bottom of the well,then you can see a bigger sky.You are very welcome.
It seems you agree most what I said, except Mona is a whore.I think anybody who sleeps around is a whore. Sex is a beautiful thing, but whore is ugly.You always think you are smart, couldn't wait to jump the conclusion. I think you are a whore too. gender equal now?
Physically, gender would never be equal, who can deny it.Your mom gave you birth, not your dad. In "Maury" show, all kinds of women bring their children to get the paternity test.because "it's hard. my son has no diaper, no milk and I couln't find who his dad is." Oh, at this moment, only tears, forgot the pleasure of sex.Normally, the man/men they bring with would deny the child, point the woman's head and yell "I am not the father because you are a whore! whore! whore!whore!"
Don't get me wrong. I ALWAYS admit sex is beautiful. But sleeping around is simply a whore. everybody should get this simple education.You get it free from me,you are very welcome.
Manipulation will be easier after you know what the person wants.Well, let me tell you why I am here, just to let you know how stupid you are.one of my friends saw your titles, he didn't read them,he already admire you so much.He wanted me to bring a message to you "Say HI to the asshole", here it is.You are so welcome.
Chinabounder wrote: "‘Effete’ most generally means ‘feminine’ and a penis is, by definition, masculine."
Reply: I think he (or she) was suggesting your penis is a transvestite, Bounder...I can imagine a a penis sashaying, but wearing a silk nekerchief? Could be he's on to something.
bmpc wrote:
"I am here to help you. I am trying to help you to look things from different perspectives"
This sounds familiar. Isn't that the Party's saying at the re-education camps?
Anonymous of Middle Eastern descent wrote: "I must say that I love this blog. It has the best writing of any China-blog I have seen yet."
Why is it you feel this writing is good, or is it a comparative excellence in that the English of pretty much every other China blog is undigestible? I enjoy the pshychology of China Bounder's blog, often recognize my own thoughts on China and the Chinese in the content, but the writing is so painfully pedantic, cliche-ridden and effete that it is difficult to get through many passages.
chinabounder says:
As I expect you know, the UK brought extensive pain and misery to China. This is something ‘we’ have never apologized for, and barely teach in schools.
That is really, it seems to me, such a simplistic attitude. It is like claiming that the evil Europeans (Spanish) murdered all those native americans.
Had the native americans any forethought, they would have recognized the possibility that the shit would hit the fan in the future and created a civilization capable of withstanding another civilization.
After all, were the Mongols evil for conquering China? The Turks for conquering Constantinople?
Anon of Middle-Eastern descent says:
As an American of Middle Eastern descent, I resent the above comment. It reveals even more racism by the Chinese against us than it does against “standard” white people.
Good luck eliminating Chinese racism.
It always amuses me to see all the crap spewing forth in the West about racism. Having grown up with Chinese people, speaking some Chinese, and having played plenty of Mahjong, I know something about Chinese people.
They are as capable of racism as any other group is. But they are also capable of love, loyalty, deceit, honour, and so forth.
I particularly like Hong Kong-style movies and series, which have become all too rare now that HK has been absorbed into China.
Chinabound says:
I was not sure if she quite orgasmed; for tho’ she sure enjoyed it, there was no clear peak, no obvious climax, no pushing away of my head as with Yan or other lovers
You know, recent research seems to have established that something like 30% of women do not orgasm during hetero sex, and that around 19% do not even orgasm during masturbation.
"What does a woman have to do to get a decent orgasm?" (Paraphrasing a Quellist saying).
Perhaps rewire her brain.
Isn't life grand?
真给英国人丢脸!英国人原来这么无耻和下流。
f u o k offf... you englishh assss....
He's just telling his story. Maybe it's true, maybe not. Those Chinese people are too sensitive. I don't see very bad words about china in his writing.
And for the girls part, true he is a playboy, but like he said "I am just one tiny bad apple in a huge vat of rotten apples." Don't forget many chinese married men also played around, which shall be worse. Right?
Anyway, the blog is fun to read, keep on.
I've lived in China for a long time and had enough similar experiences to know that all of these posts are very accurate - any single guy who's lived here long enough will tell you the same thing. Are all these girls hookers? Of course they're not. They're ordinary girls, most of them curious to learn more about westerners, to expand their horizons, or to seek satisfaction that they can't find with their boyfriends / husbands. Some of them are simply getting revenge because their husbands are at KTVs frequently with "xiao jie" or sometimes simply not paying attention to their wives or girlfriends. Some of the girls are bad girls, many of them are perfectly decent, intelligent, educated girls. That's all I wanted to say really.
The bus part... just an excuse to cover that you don't have much money to spend. Deliberate description just shows you are more "cheapskate"...
"I tell a woman I love her only as a means to fuck her. "
I wonder whether you say it to your mom and grandmom. As a matter of fact, I am more than willing to have more stories about how you fucked them...
You mother fucker..
What can I say about you?
As a whole, you and your tribe are less evolved than Chinese, and we are at different stage of evolution. Here are 10 facts, you can search Internet to verify if these are true or not.
1. Your eyebrows are very close to your eyes, and higher above your face surface, your eyes instead, hidden deeply. This is a typical feature of apes. 2. You have lots of hair on your body; this is another typical feature of apes. 3. You have serious stink if you don’t wash yourself just for one day, that is why you must use perfume to expel the bad smell. This is the third typical feature of apes. 4. Your brain size is smaller although you are heavier. 5. The babies in your tribe only pregnant for 40 weeks while we Chinese is 41 weeks, and our babies are heavier than your babies when born. The lower level animal, the smaller the baby is. 6. The twin children happens 4 times per 1000 couples for us but for your tribe it is 6 times. The more babies, the lower evolution level is. 7. Under same condition, the life span of your tribe is 2 years less than us. 8. Your language is easy to learn, and consisted by lots of consonant, while our language is complicated and the reading efficiency is much higher once mastered, and contains lots of vowels. Thus your language is more like animals. 9. The AIDS rate of your tribe is much higher than us. 10. We are more cautious and better capability to concentrate than you, and the mental disease rate is much lower than your tribe.
I know where you are. You will go where you should go.
You will be hunt down! Coming after you... ;-()
This Chinabound guy is a loser, sucker, asshole and criminal. He deserves life in prison for sleeping with students. It's that simple.
Get out from China, Bloody Britishpi! I felt shamelful for you and your family!!!
操你妈,垃圾
British are white trash. Next time, let's nuke london.
I suspect this article writer identification, is he a British ? Regarding sex, it belongs to personal privacy, is is unnecessary to exhibit in Blog in public ! It seems as if chinabounder intentionally humilate chinese particularly Shanghainese ? This guy is not welcomed in Shanghai, he should learn how to respect local nation people living habits ! He is a rascal and swindler .
YOU WILL BE HUNTED OUT AND KILLED LIKE A GIBBED DOG!!
Du Aschloch!
楼上的,什么叫“英国人'原来'这么无耻和下流。 ”
那是“本来”呀!
——知道“鸦片战争”咱回事么?
FUCK UR MOTHER!
FUCK UR GRANDMOTHER!!
FUCK THE MOTHER OF UR GRANDMOTHER!!!
FUCK THE GRANDMOTHER OF UR GRANDMOTHER!!!!
U SON OF BITCH!
british is rascal, pig.
british pig.
british ashhole.
all the world fuch british
If you think that Chinabounder sucks, then hope more people to know about him.
If you think what ChinaBounder wrote is acually what happened in Shanghai and China, and hope more people to aware about it.
Translate it into Chinese.
send it to chinabounder.chinese@gmail.com
We will post it over
http://chinabounderinchinese.blogspot.com/index.html
I am a chinese girl studying in the US. Actually I don't find you are too bad, cos many chinese guys are the same.and I do think you are a smart guy. I agree that Chinese are pretty much nationalist, but it's already part of what we are. just like you wouldn't want to laugh at their white robs in Arabic countries. that hurts people's feeling. Good thing is we are changing. please try to understand the people and the country, we are really not that different. something too ideological is always misleading. I am still here kind of wondering and learning. trying to understand the americans, how they can be partying all the time and not feeling tired. hehehe....
I guess that not many people, especially girls are that interested in history and politics. it would give you wrong impression about how people know about chinese history. I bet in england, you wouldn't find a lot of people to talk about politics with, and politics is kind of professional that you will find fewer people can talk about it in a second language.
just some thinking
I feel sorry for the problems in china, which are pretty much because of the XXXXXX. I guess everybody can do something for the country if you like china.
good luck.
fuck yourself white trash
I am a native of Shanghai. I now reside in US. Based on my interactions of many, many married Chinese women (in US), I can tell you that Chinese men in generally suck, both in bed and in love. No wonder our western visitor is having so much fun in China. Enjoy while the fun lasts.
To be honest with you, I don't have much sympathy for the Chinese. Many, including the Japanese, often mistake me for a Japanese. And my assessment of contemporary Chinese society (culture or the lack of, manner, habits, spiritual well being, etc.) is generally negative.
Typo: in generally --> in general.
I personally would restrict world-wide immigration of Chinese to the bare minimum. But unfortunately, these highly-schooled -- note that I didn't use the word educated -- techie workers (I mean copycats, really) are in hot demand.
The Chinese should stay in mainland China. They can have Taiwan. I'm pretty sure Taiwan will be re-integrated into the Chinese behemoth within twenty years. And they can keep their ill manners and ego-centric behaviors at home, do as they wish. Just don't let them come abroad and pollute civilised countries.
But, you can't stop them. It's the age of globalisation, brother.
Anonymous said... I personally would restrict world-wide immigration of Chinese to the bare minimum.
I disagree. I believe in the free movement of people around the world. And with regard to Chinese citizens, I feel living overseas is beneficial in that it can help them get a freer perspective on their own society. This, of course, might be an unrealistic hope, because one of the problems with Chinese emigration is that too many Chinese people stay firmly in their own communities when abroad. Many (not all) tend to shun integration, both as overseas students or workers. I think that’s sad.
Yes, at present there is a lot of ‘copycat’ behavior and (if this is your point) industrial espionage from Chinese tech workers overseas.
But that is just the early stage of an economy inventing itself. I believe (though I am not sure) that the US ‘stole’ British/European intellectual property as it was finding its feet after independence, though of course that was in a different era of legal attitudes. In due course I expect China will move past the need for industrial espionage.
I think Taiwan will only be re-integrated into China by force. This would be a tragedy for both countries.
fucking guy~ asshole~~
Keep on doing what you are doing. The country of China and its people have many great aspects and many glaring drawbacks, this being one of them. Regardless, I love you challenging the freedom of speech here.
Trash
Isn't Chinabounder supposed to be a hoax? Or is there really a Chinabounder who made up the hoax idea to throw people off? Is Chinabounder a hoax or the hoax a hoax? And why hasn't the net flushed him out yet?
I have to say that,"you are 贱人
By the way if you going to put some pictures then you should put some pictures of you and your dick.so it will show how dirty you are!!
-by RAINBOWN
bmpc, you are pathetic....
I am sure I would get you to my bed
Now be on guard, don't have sex with anyone it could be me :P
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