Friday, August 25, 2006

Little Black Book

In that very class where first I noted ex-Mildred, Clarissa sent me a teasing, pleasing text message:-

does it easy to find a suitable China girl to sleep with?

I took the chance to flirt back:-

finding a girl as beautiful, sexy and unforgettable as the one I met on Friday night is extremely hard.

And as I tapped this off to her, another arrived:

Ok together with your sweet girl. i will find u later with a handsome guy.

The next morning I messaged her:-

Last night I dreamed of you... all night long, my Clarissa...

Normally that’s a lie when I say it. In this case it was true. I remember it clearly because it was a sexy dream, one in which I was just about to realize all my hopes; but just as I reached that moment I was woken by a text message from Tulip.

To this, Clarissa replied `ur killing me, u know?

That filled me with joy, for I took it to mean `killing me with conflict’ – that is, that she was thinking of me like I am of her, though a less pleasing interpretation would be that she meant I was a ladykiller and the she saw through my shallow moves.

But still I tried to play it a little, replying ‘Killing? O, if only I could change that double `l’ to double `s’…’ And she, quick to take up this little linguistic game, said ‘u mean kidding? I know!

This flirty tone to our relationship carried on online. A month or so after we’d got to know each other, she’d told me how she did not like to sleep alone (her husband being elsewhere on business.)

Me: yeah, i am sleeping alone these days too, and i'm not too happy about it either!
C: why not find a girl friend
Me. oh, i guess i could... but i am not good at being that serious .. so i don't really want a proper relationship
C: besides.... i would be thinking of you even if i did have a gf
C: it doesn't matter at all
Me: oh?
C: as I am not an MBA
Me: i know, dear Clarissa, i know... i would not make the rude suggestion that you were!
Me: but i hope u could be a good friend at least!
C: Don;t we?
Me: we are... but.. friends should spend time together, and, alas, u are too busy for that! what a shame...
C: know I am afraid of u
C: afraid of ... I think u know
Me: well... i guess... so maybe it is better we are friends more by msn than in person (of course I did not mean that at all, but one must know when not to push too hard)
Me: but... it would be nice
C: i know u r a "killer" but I don't want to be killed
C: I need a peaceful life
B: yes, i do understand, Clarissa. but in fact i am not really a `killer' - it is only when it comes to you that i find it hard to control my thoughts.
C: sweet man

This promising conversation ended there, since Tulip called me, following up her sms (more of her, later, too); but that was a good enough place to leave our online chat. This kind of conversation can be kept brief, hanging, for that makes it more piquant, more stimulating.

Keyed up to the pitch of needing feminine company, the day after this conversation I idled through a few contacts in my address book.

First of all, I called up Joy. Joy had studied at Tsinghua University, and (as are many from there) was fearsomely intelligent. Perfect in English, she was now following it up with German, and it was in such a class that I’d met her a few months before this.

Lecher though I am, the single sexiest quality in a woman, for me, is intelligence; true intelligence – not merely book-learned repetition - shines in the character, and it takes very few seconds for it to be obvious. Just a minute or two of conversation with Joy when I first met her was enough to captivate me – her breezy self-confidence, her brisk, pugnacious, teasing manner of talking to me. And so I’d set myself after her and, course concluded, we’d met for dinner.

Yet splendidly bright as she is, full of life and character, over dinner I saw that that life seemed to have little of emotion in it. Bracing she was, but also unyielding, wrapped in ice. I do not mean just with regard to my trifling desires, but rather that she was held back, reserved, as a way of life.

This is not quite to say she knows nothing of emotion, for she is aware of it and its complexities. But only in a logical way; she knows it, even understands it, some – but does not feel it. She is too rigid, intellectual.

Well, flaunting my ease with these things – or crassness, perhaps – I asked “Have you ever been kissed?”

“Of course I have!” she said –“Here,” pointing to her cheek, “and here,” to her forehead. I laughed out loud at this and in the ensuing conversation she told me that she would have to date a guy for at least two years before letting him her lips.

Partly it’s so absurd as to be laughable; partly it’s sad. This cocoon of bullshit, of lies; it’s what leads to sure marital sadness, as Chinese woman too often goes from chaste virgin to being badly, coolly and rapidly fucked by her cold fish husband – as she unwraps the gift she’s seen glittering in her mind all her life and finds a cold, cooked, congealed potato therein. Ah, yes, a ‘generalization’ again. But what shall I say? I can only write of what I see, what I am told. China is a sexually repressed society.

But (to get back to my search for a date) there was no reply for her. So then on a whimsy I text-messaged Holly, also a long-term background interest of mine who I will add to the growing list of women to write about in more detail.

In brief, for now, Holly caught my eye in class primarily because she reminded me of a girlfriend back in England. Echoes from the past are powerful, hard to ignore, and a certain amount of repetition in life has its charms. And this particular girlfriend back in England was a long term part of my life, and the years I spent in Germany and then Australia. I was not then the thing that I am now; China was the tutor and feeder of my riots.

Holly’s manner too reminded me of this past girlfriend, though of course that was likely more my need than her reality, me just seeing what I wanted to see. But the way she was slightly ill-at-ease (for the first time I invited her out it was with a general group of friends), the air she had, like that ex-, was of being in a milieu foreign to her… I don't mean to suggest any lack of social skills, not at all; more that she reminded me of how this ex- had once told me about going out with ‘wild young things.’ It was perhaps just that she found the party a little boring but something she felt she ought to enjoy – though would have preferred a quieter, calmer place. Her slight air of detachment, of observation… it was redolent, reminiscent of my life with that ex-.

But I got no reply from Holly, either. Of course, I could have called, rather than messaged, but that is not quite such a good way to flirt; for Holly would have been at work and thus would have been forced to respond to my call professionally not personally, for offices in China are not much different to offices in any country, and ears are open, tongues wag.

So then I sent Sweetie a message, and soon enough one arrived back from her. She was out of town. This was perhaps just as well, for I had neither seen nor messaged her for a few weeks, and to get together with her tonight purely because I wanted a woman would have been so obvious indiscreet as to have made her ha me.

And that many attempts was enough for me, so I went to Paulaner bar to take advantage of their afternoon special on beer, where, at half price, it is only surprisingly expensive rather than outrageously expensive and where (it being the afternoon) silence reigns; for in the evening Thai and Philipine bands sing, the noise is overwhelming and the crowds of easily-fooled locals, out to be seen, cram the place.

Later that evening, however, Clarissa called me, high and happy, at a party somewhere; and then again later, on her way home, 1 a.m., she called again, the party over and she on her way home; and this seemed to me a good sign, for it showed she again was thinking of me. Sure, maybe she just wants the flattery I surely provided, but even were that true it would still prove connection, frisson; she would not have been thinking of me, called me, had I not some impact on her.

Sure, I rolled out such seductive words as seemed fitting; she was after them, telling me she was sure I did not really care about her (for this was still relatively early in our relationship) – and what was that but a chance to tell her just how potently I did feel about her? How I thought of her every day? Pressed her for dinner, and she liked it but would not commit – because, to judge by the call and our online conversations she was enough interested in me for that putative dinner to undo her self-control; and, thus, while she was separated by a phone’s distance, she knew to hold to that gap as hard as she could.

And indeed she told me she had to go home to her husband – her mention of him both a barrier and an offer. A barrier because it was to remind me he was there, she was his; but an offer because, in going home to him, she showed she was thinking of me.

More, she put him there, obvious, to show he was part of the equation; that no matter what might happen between us, she would remain married to him. And that suited me just fine. I did not want to love her, exactly, but nor quite was it just a matter of sex. Yes, sex was my goal, true, but sex with at least some emotional anchor to it.




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Anonymous said...

What the fucking !!!

Hey, enough to read these childish, pointless stories. Why don't you move on to the fucking with girls stories?

ChinaBounder's email: said...

I write to please myself, not you. Take it or leave it.

Anonymous said...

Everything which is written merely to please the author is worthless.

Anonymous said...

post your guess on

Who is Chinabounder

Anonymous said...

I am from China. In Chinese language, when people referred to a man from UK, he was called a "English Gentleman". UK was the only western country called in this way in Chinese. This was the case at least in the last century. I don't know why. Now more than half of 1.3 billion Chinese hate the entire western world, partly due to the Chinese state-controlled media, and of course, partly because of the exsistence of trash like you.

Where are you from? I hope not from UK, although you "teach" English. I don't know why and how UK has changed.

Maybe I am not talking about countries, civilizations, bla, bla. It's just individuals have become different from their parents or grand parents. There have been bad guys here and there since long time ago. No question about it.

The difference is, they were not so proud of themselves back then. Now they are. And you seem one of them.

Is this why western countries are hated everywhere in the developing world, although they've done lots of good stuff?

Anyway, enjoy your sins, and be prepared to cry to Abraham from the other side of river, hell.

Anonymous said...

P.S.: to continue from last comment, in condemning you, I have to confess the sin in the bottom of my heart too. I don't know what I would do if I were you, in your situation.

So, I am just thankful for being born a Chinese, and cannot take the advantage of girls which are accessible to you. And so I can lead a normal life, kind of a human life.

Anonymous said...

don't you guys realize he discriminates against christians,too?

eg.

"Religion is the other way, and I meet a growing number of this kind of rebel. In general, such people are, like 95% of Christians, utterly unprepossessing, utterly vapid, limp, bland."

ChinaBounder's email: said...

Anonymous said…don't you guys realize he discriminates against christians,too?

Just like I discriminate against evil, folly, stupidity and bigotry; with all of which christianity is compact.

Anonymous said...

so you mean that christians are generally evil, crazy, stupid and bigots?

ChinaBounder's email: said...

Anonymous said…So, I am just thankful for being born a Chinese, and cannot take the advantage of girls which are accessible to you. And so I can lead a normal life, kind of a human life.

The unexamined life is not worth living.

ChinaBounder's email: said...

Anonymous said…so you mean that christians are generally evil, crazy, stupid and bigots?

Yeah.

Anonymous said...

so what do you think about those americans?

Anonymous said...

The unexamined life is not worth living.

Sure, like drugs, killings, crimes, adultery, lots of stuff. Have you tried suiside? It's said that it's quite stimulating your organs.

Anonymous said...

suiside is an ancient Indian method of healing, for those who lost their sense of pain.

Anonymous said...

By the way, your article is famous among Chinese websites now, and several thousands people are now talking about identifying you and beating you to death. (see blog.sina.com.cn)

When it happens, please do not blame them. You are just a part of human history, on which another young man from UK will study 50-80 years later, as you studied about the history for some years ago.

Chinabounderess said...

I just love reading about Chinabounder's life and experiences!

psst, wrote about you again in my blog ;)


www.chinabounderess.blogspot.com

Anonymous said...

Why are you chinks so f-ing crazy? Why, if you are so moral, must you beat somebody to death with your stupid digital lynch mobs? Did he commit a crime?

The history of your people will never become bright if you continue to act like barbarians.

Anonymous said...

Anon says:


The history of your people will never become bright if you continue to act like barbarians.


Oh come on. That is bullshit.

While it does seem to be a style of behavior that occurs in Korea as well, at least no one gets killed.

Anonymous said...

Why is that bullshit? The same applies for the gooks. Their history has been just as dim and sad. Their own people slaughtered thousands in places like Cheju. Why don't the collaborators have their day in court? Because they own 90% of the country and still control the government.

They are just as hate filled and close minded as the chinese.

Anonymous said...

You fucking piece of shit!!

Anonymous said...

Why are you chinks so f-ing crazy?

The same applies for the gooks.

Hey could you niggers STFU? Thanks.

Anonymous said...

Before we fuck your asshole ,get out of China,otherwise you would be a died man.

Anonymous said...

I don't think you can persuade this white guy to understand that he is committing racism.

Just like many White Americans who think all Black people are criminals by citing "statistically there are more African Amricans in prison," or by claiming that Mexicans are lazy and stupid by citing "statistically they have more children than they can afford" or stating Asians are all anti-social by citing that "most Asians I see are quiet and they only hang out with each other." Racism is racism, no matter how hard you try to justify your source of explanation.

Most of these Chinese women who sleep with Chinabounder probably either flat out lied or exggerated their husband/boyfriends' inability to love-- why? Because Everybody does that when in bed with another man!! Just like how Chinabounder says to every woman "you're beautiful," all the women will say in bed to Chinabounder "you are better than my boyfriend." Foolishly, Chinabounder takes these women's sweet words as their objective truths and flaunts it in such a racially charged way.

I feel sorry for you man, you're so simple minded and insecure with yourself. I worry about you, worry about you finding who you are, finding happiness, finding self worth not based on the superiority of racism.

Anonymous said...

Someday next month, I will kill you son of a bitch!

And I'll kill your mother if possible. Your mother must be a bitch, so just kill an animal, is legal.

Anonymous said...

你他妈得太傻比了。干几个上海女人就牛比成这样。你们国家的女人我干过的少说也有20多个了。个个都他妈的跟践比一样。

Anonymous said...

I will kill you and fuck your mother, your sister. I promise

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Anonymous said...

i don't believe your wife is a virgin ,since you seem not care.

like what's said in Gladiator, she might be f..ked again, again and again...

congratulations about second hand wife, man.

Anonymous said...

You piece of shit, white trash, redneck....... You are dead meat now!

Anonymous said...

this guy absolutely a liar and bastard.
you took advantage of chinese women because of their innocency.
you won them becasue you had guised very well like a smiling sheep. you are ashamed of yourself. i am sure most of gentle english people don't like you. repent youself and appologize to those innocent girls.

Anonymous said...

your blog is damaging the reputation of civilized English people. and hurting the chinese people.
it reflects the darkness of your heart.

Anonymous said...

hi,chinabounder, i think you choose the wrong direction.
the chinese men are jealious of you. if i played around with english women in england and then i outspeak publicly, how do you feel.
if you talk about other aspects of china, for example it's politic,culture,econoy and trandition and so on, it maybe more acceptable.
just a suggestion.

Anonymous said...

haha, it looks like all the crazy fuckers got on here. If you told someone in England, America, Japan, that some Chinese dude was playing around with "their" country women, none of those people would care. Can't you crazy fuckers understand that? Why do you care if a girl wants to have sex? Do they have to be your slaves?

I guess some gook got mad about that comment earlier.

Anonymous said...

Poor Chinabounder... Are u foolish enough to believe the word "In the Internet no one knows u r a dog"?

I'm afraid u'll be SURELY identified and get ur ass kicked.

Anonymous said...

culture is different among the nations
mate.
you fuckers don't care about other fucker's feeling, just fuck,fuck,fuck, like an animal.

east meets west

Anonymous said...

I don't care u r a fucker and continue ur fucking life, but ur talk too much bullshit about Japanese issue, which really insults me.

Anonymous said...

错那骂老比,农只瘪三好滚了!纲比样子一只!要错错自嘎国家额野鸡去,只只骚得来像妓女。
祝农早日出门被车子装死,全家被人先奸后杀。
那马比!u son of bitch!那娘是只bitch,被宁嘎勿同额宁错了无数鞭生出农只低能儿,西了滚!勿要测那西了中国,滚那骂错比!滚,贱货!!!

Anonymous said...

http://whoischinabounder.blogspot.com/


1. Came to Shanghai six years ago.
2. British.
3. He was born in the year of the dog - therefore, 36 years old.
4. Teaches english in various universities.
5. Knows Jiao Tong university well.
6. Gives his msn/email to students at the end of classes.
7. Lives on or near Huai Hai Road.
8. Reasonably good spoken/written Chinese.

PLEASE ASSIST by adding the relevant blog passage to the below FOOTNOTES:


2.
I’m pretty sure I remember references (in his early blogs) to him being from England. (It is interesting to note that, recently, he seems to have removed his earlier archives – which originally dated back to 2005.)

7.
SEDUCING CHRISTINE #4 -- Saturday, August 19, 2006
“So after eating we walked along Huai Hai Road back to my place.”

8.
Six yrs in China + Frequent use of Chinese in blog.

Anonymous said...

http://whoischinabounder.blogspot.com/


1. Came to Shanghai six years ago.
2. From England. (Also spent time in Germany and Australia)
3. He was born in the year of the dog - therefore, 36 years old.
4. Teaches english in various universities.
5. Knows Jiao Tong university well.
6. Gives his msn/email to students at the end of classes.
7. Lives on or near Huai Hai Road.
8. Reasonably good spoken/written Chinese.

PLEASE ASSIST by adding the relevant blog passage to the below FOOTNOTES:


2.
LITTLE BLACK BOOK -- Friday, August 25, 2006
“… she reminded me of a girlfriend back in England … And this particular girlfriend back in England was a long term part of my life, and the years I spent in Germany and then Australia.”

7.
SEDUCING CHRISTINE #4 -- Saturday, August 19, 2006
“So after eating we walked along Huai Hai Road back to my place.”

8.
Six yrs in China + Frequent use of Chinese in blog.

Anonymous said...

you'd better hide yourself well,otherwise we will try all ways to find you out and let all chinese girls know the true ugly side about you. You dont deserve to stay in china, we will kick you out of china.

Anonymous said...

Chinabounder, thanks for your great blog. I like it.

Anonymous said...

So ein Schweinehund!!!

Anonymous said...

you stupid bumbum head! get out of my country. You shamed England.

ChinaBounder's email: said...

ffffffffffffffffffff said… congratulations about second hand wife, man.

As I've said, many guys fetishize virginity. You seem to be one of them. Your phrase ‘second hand wife' speaks volumes about your attitude to women.

ChinaBounder's email: said...

anonymous said…. we will try all ways to find
you out and let all chinese girls know the true ugly side about you.
You dont deserve to stay in china, we will kick you out of china.



Why not try to think for yourself, instead of `we’?

Anonymous said...

下面这些疯话不是用来被赞同的而是用来被记忆的,等到时机成熟的时候会有一些启发。并且,小弟诚心的祝兄弟们lucky到永远也等不到时机成熟。

假如,(虽然大多女的会说这种状况永不会发生),甲乙二群人,被困于沙漠渴的很痛苦,甲群人每人手里有一把钥匙,乙群人每人手里有一个锁着的水袋,两人一同才能开启水袋喝到水,如果都不喝水的话,根据天生的身体状况甲群人会更早痛苦,而乙群人只承认自己体力比较弱,正常情况下每月流几天血。乙群人温柔的声明开水袋的条件是这辈子只能和他/她本人喝水。有甲群人答应了,却发现这个乙群人不再温柔了而是不断提出新的要求,并同别的乙群人攀比起胜利果实来了。
若你是第三人,你是觉得哪群人更无耻?在都不完美的情况下。

男女开始时都骗了对方。男的说会一万年,女的没说自己的修养水平会下降。若是男的不说一万年女的就不给生殖器,而生理结构决定了男的比女的更早需要对方的生殖器(想想寡妇为何更苦)。也就是说,开始时,女的要挟了男的。后来,男的后悔了,女的坚持要兑现那一万年,不然就闹,即使在后期女的自身水平的下降超出了任何人的想象。

女人靠什么生存?靠你以为她们(还)天真。第一步骗一个她认为最有发展前景的男的,第二步结婚,然后不断闹他更上一层楼。这一切都是在感情的名义下用生殖器来要挟着完成的。男人说了实话,女人会愤怒但不会惊讶;女人说了实话,男人被吓死。女人的幸福全部建立在对自己真实想法的伪装上。

为什么非处男要好过非处女?因为非处男身上还有女的需要的东西,而非处女身上男的需要的东西已经变得很差了。是指修养。开苞3年后,女的修养水平会有一个非常大的下降;生孩子后,又会有一个非常大的下降。两次下降之后,在修养水平上来看,绝大部分女的基本没有人样了。

兄弟们,你们记住,女的的爱,不是只为钱,是为了你能始终努力去满足她提出的各种类型的要求。所以,你很容易发现她们不记过去,从不牺牲,永不满足,为方便记忆,可称为“三不”。

妇女同志的经济独立,不应仅仅是不依靠某一个男人的帮助,而应是不依靠所有男人的帮助,包括老头。小弟鼎力支持女的经济独立,因为独立了之后她们至少不必用生殖器骗了,兄弟们也容易看出她们的嘴脸。

女人,若不需要被照顾,请明示;若需要被照顾,请服从到能平衡照顾。又需要照顾又不服从到平衡又不明示的,就是骗子,骗子不配被尊重,不配谈平等,只配被将计就计。

这就是女人成熟的地方,她们不去想权利和义务是否平等,需要权利的时候她们说应平等,说到义务的时候她们说自己弱小。因为她们知道,谈平等对女人来说是死路一条。我们能做的就是,当她们不想谈平等的时候,努力使她们的命运更悲苦。唉。

妇女解放了50年,妇女被压迫了2000年,难道2000年的智慧实践探索经验教训比不上50年的?难道2000年中的人都是傻子?你去医院拔牙,要找医术高的,可一进屋,满屋子都是大夫,哪个医术高呀?那时候最好的方法,就是找个中年男大夫旁边等着啦。这不是我说出来的,你去医院看看变知。或者,你若是还支持不顾妇女基础的妇女解放的话,希望你看病时多支持女医生。等到排在男女医生后面的对伍一样长了,再来谈男女平等,妇女解放。

从禽兽上来讲,公的都照顾母的到什么程度呢?照顾到母的能生出孩子,也就是说,母的吃饱穿暖后,租房也行,走路也行,不赔笑也行。至于与生孩子无关的其他要求,公的是置之不理的。

公猴也到处播种,母猴也没像女人那样闹;母猴也没有要求有房有车无贷才结婚,结婚之后能吃饱穿暖就行了也没事事攀比,相对于女人,母猴基本上算是清纯的。现在的状况是,男的仍然如同禽兽,女的却已经禽兽不如了。之所以仍然需要找女的是因为与母猴语言不通,这点比不上有些姐妹,语言不通也能“爱”。

有些大姐说,对配偶之外的性好奇女的也有。可强度相同么?你也从12岁到80岁都愿意为做爱而出精力出钱么?你也愿意为做爱陪70年的笑脸么?

姐妹们,找一张纸,列个对照表,你认为的,你对男的有什么用处vs男的对你有什么用处,如果你在现实中未生过孩子的话,把生孩子这项划掉;如果生过的话,添加一张对照表,你认为的,母猴如何要求公猴vs你如何要求他的,你的修养就能自我升华了。千万不要相信你爹妈的话,如果按照他们的说法做,你爹年轻时都不会找你。

转,“这世界,女人寻找"好男人",男人寻找"好女人"。男人和女人在寻寻觅觅中,往往因为缺乏洞察力而结婚,因为缺乏忍耐力而离婚,因为缺乏记忆力而再婚。男人的错误在于他一心想娶一个十全十美的女人。女人的错误在于她一心想嫁一个百分之百爱她的男人。结果是男人和女人一起失望。所以,男人和女人终其一生就是一场天长地久的寻觅。”

“世上很难得有完美的观点,你若不赞同一个观点,最好的方式就是说出你的观点然后来比较。政府除外,因为政府收了税。”
好的观点:
1。基于逻辑而不是感觉;
2。能解释过去现在的事实,从比例上而不是举例上;
3。能更准确的预测未来。

Jin Zhihua said...

fuck you lao mu!!!!!

Anonymous said...

你被那么多中国女人玩过了?不仅免费当鸭子,还供吃喝。服务的还挺卖力的。
他们品尝了你的鲜,正暗自回味偷着乐哪
那像你这么招摇.beirenmaile被人卖了还替人数钱。。

Anonymous said...

hi china bounder,

I read from some article that one chinese guy is furiously against you and wants to drive you out of china. He said that you cheated the chinese women you slept with and humiliated all chinese, especially chinese men. Well, in your blog space i think things happened are quite normal; and as a personal blog exaggerating and self appreciating of course can be forgiven. Harshly speaking, just nothing more than the advanture of a so called white-trash in shanghai. Sorry for my comment.

However, what amusing me most is how the "innocent" chinese men react; as usual they are so easy to be irritated by some biased opinion, can only use limited dirty words and sentences (Oh some even cannot understand english well...), and try to argue or blame with some reasoning totally unrelated.

Sad. Sad by our men.

Anonymous said...

shit

Anonymous said...

Well, ppl from a small island are really short-sighted and knows nothing but being arrogance. What you have written clearly tells us what a typical english jerk can be. english chicks have their 'attractive' pear shape body which is quite famous around world. Probably that's why you are getting so sick out of this.

engisland has nothing but its legacy dreams being a kingdom without sunset. but now, you only get endless raining and dark winters in the island. that's probably why you leave the hell and go to china.

wake up, mate! have a glance of what engisland is now: anti-social behaviour, excessive drinking, knife crime, and students cannot even read properly when they are enrolled in unis... the only thing you left to be proud of is ur fucking ability. Ironically, based on a survey to men in the world, english men, without any doubts, have the shortest erection time, less than 2 mins. congratulations!

i am deeply sorry for those nice britons who could be humiliated becos of you and your behaviour.

Anonymous said...

We are looking for you in Shanghai,lots of us, if you dont wish to be a dead prick, go back to your fucking contry

Anonymous said...

dude, prolly you didn't notice that you've already become so famous in China everyone on the internet talking about you. If you believe all Chinese are ignorance, if you are proud of what you have been doing with those girls, someday you will be spotted on the street and you will be castrated, Mr.Horny Brit.

Anonymous said...

I’m not surprised that some SH women like “big pennies” that teaches English.
I’m surprised by the way u brag about it
就是一男版木子美,大家别太当回事儿了

Anonymous said...

市场经济,有甚好说,看热闹吧

Anonymous said...

you are nothing but Son Of Bitch.

- chicago, usa

Chinabounderess said...

to all your anonymous freaks:

HOW OLD ARE YOU REALLY?? Reading chinabounder's blog fanatically and writing comments, such as, Im going to find you and kill you, your mother is a bitch, son of a bitch etc etc. Let me just ask again? How OLD are you? 12? I wouldn't be suprised. Do you seriosuly believe that Chinabounder's mum has to to anything with her son being a lecher? think again!

As a chinese, I am ASHAMED of you, who put these kind of replies?Threathening through internet while being anonymous, YOU ARE WHIMPS!! I find you much more DISGUSTING than Chinabounder's exploits!

You are just helping other people to amplify their views of the typical Chinese guy. You guys, if any, have BAD su zhi!

Anonymous said...

hah, how ironic it is! a jerk even talking about suzhi. What you've said is perfectly describing yourself: You are just helping other people to amplify their views of the typical jerk from 'engisland'.

Chinabounderess said...

at least I have better su zhi than you, I don't threathen people to death

Anonymous said...

son of bitch

Anonymous said...

Obviously, a guy with face like you will never get a pretty girl anywhere. You fuck some slut so what? You think you are winning you loser. In fact, they just try to save your sorry ass. They know you will not be able to get any sex elsewhere.
Get the fuck out of China, you loser!

Anonymous said...

you r rubbish

Anonymous said...

what a loser..Your brain is of your dicks' size and fucking's all u know about. Garbage in ur country trying to show off else where. You are the shame of your nation. Fuck off! O/W, u'll never see your ma again!

Anonymous said...

A extreme stupid white trash with a bunch of extreme silly Chinese sluts, what a animal party!!

The shame is the party happened in shanghai rather than chinabounder’s hometown (I guess such things are normal back there, otherwise chinabounder won't post it publicly to show off.)

Btw, chinabounder must be a big loser in his own place, if not why bothering stay abroad in many foreign lands other than shagging some fellow countrymen back in his own place?

For why are there poor Chinese girls who are willing to be fucked by a perverted international bum, one true reason, for any country that has 130 million people, proportionately, the number of mentally disabled low-quality sluts must be the biggest in the world. It's sad but nothing surprising.

Chinabounder, you keep bounding, but as a Chinese proverb said, anyone who behaves bad constantly, he will be dead in pain. Hopefully this old saying (like HIV) doesn’t apply to Mr bounder, a low-quality and mentally grubby foreigner.

Anonymous said...

Seriously, what is up with all the idiot Chinese? If you're too cowardly to even leave a fake internet handle then you have even less huevos than CB says you do. And if you're afraid of attaching your name to a death threat, then you probably should be aware your IP address is recorded anyway. 你 沒 有 种

Anonymous said...

Hey guys

Surely it is a shame of the western people to have such a garbage like "chinabounder" (suppose what he said is true), or some arrogant jingoists thinking they are somebody(yes, I mean you, the"amused" who posted at 7:49PM). I noticed some of them have strange brain. According to their opinion, those who were philandered or insulted by the trash are also trash. Could I say, those killed in 911 were also terrorists? What a logic!

BUT after all, It is also a SHAME for the Chinese to just say dirty words or commit personal threatening here. I think those peacockish women deserve that, nobody forces them to have sex with that trash and to be insulted. And , if you are men, just do what you can do, it's no use to shout here, no matter how loud you are. You can either find him out and use your way to kick his ass, work hard so that China becomes stronger, and teach the people what you know, help them to have some correct knowledge about the WEST.

For our lovely "chinabounder",
maybe this is good for you, "his judge comes that right and soon".
Don't let your brain occupied just by Penis and those Nazi shit. Just a friendly advice:)

Anonymous said...

Who knew a sex blog could be so boring?

Anonymous said...

Hey it's still me. Just tell the guy who posted at 1:09AM: I used anonymous just because I don't think it necessary to register a id for this. That's all.

Anonymous said...

I support Chinabounder, everything he said is 100% true. The Chinese are a bunch of mindless animals who should be treated as sex toys (the women) or killed (the men).

Anonymous said...

It's not just a sex blog. It's a place full of racism and discrimination. It is illegal at anywhere. Whoever have the covenience, stop cursing and SUE those trash.

Anonymous said...

vinny,u r a hore.u must be fucked by the stupid chinabounder thousands of times.
The women of ur stupid country should be treated as cheap sex toys or killed,just like japanese women(maybe u r a little fuck japs ya?!)
你出门被车撞死!

Anonymous said...

无聊。没必要上升到民族的高度

男女的事,是自己愿意,人家也门强迫什么。中国女人尝尝外国人的滋味也没什么厚非。在国内的老外少,所以才有那么多女人根他。。大家心里都差不多,对外族人好奇。而且如果对方英俊,会讨女孩子欢喜,就是这样的中国男人也会交上相对多些的女人,何况还有外族人的神秘呢。

我觉得没必要认为中国女人被老外上了就是吃亏了或者是耻辱了。他不也很欣赏中国女人啊。 如果换个角度是个外国女人说和中国男人的事, 恐怕很多男人会感到骄傲吧。 关键是那人说了些贬损中国男人的话。

尽管打击面大些。但有些也是事实。可动不动上升到民族高度,还把责任推给女人发贱也是不自信的表现。

也许中国是阴性阳衰,女人在性方面一直没什么自由。不能真正得到自己的身心的解放。稍微自由些就被冠以淫贱的骂名。外国的女人看那个外国男人顺眼就和他上床,也没因而被他们本国的男人吗。

请不要总用民族主意做文章。

Anonymous said...

The problem with this trash is, he has sex with his students. That's why he is evil and disgusting.

Awful white trash and son of bitch.

Anonymous said...

Now I somehow understand why these English immigrants in London could suddenly turn from seemingly normal people to someone who anxiously wish to pay their lives to kill.

Besides arrogance, there is truly a deadly flaw in Western civilization - they so trivialize adultery and like so much fucking around.

Anonymous said...

It is soothing to see there are still smart, calm chinese men. thanks for leaving reasonable statements, they're proof that chinese ppl are not all that stupid and mindless. i would like to have a boyfriend like you guys.

Anonymous said...

whatamisupposedtobe, thanks for your comment which is a proof that western people are not all that arrogant, self-righteous or sex-addicted.

Anonymous said...

u know what?
u suck!

Anonymous said...

Harshly speaking, just nothing more than the advanture of a so called white-trash in shanghai. Sorry for my comment.

However, what amusing me most is how the "innocent" chinese men react; as usual they are so easy to be irritated by some biased opinion, can only use limited dirty words and sentences (Oh some even cannot understand english well...), and try to argue or blame with some reasoning totally unrelated.

Sad. Sad by our men.


Something you feel no big deal can be thought terribly wrong and hideous by the people from the other side of world. Without these insights it's foolish to claim yourself wise.

Dirty words are certainly inappropriate but it does not mean the anger behind is absolutely unjustifiable.

Further, does fuckering the students make any sense to anybody here or anywhere?

Anonymous said...

hi, my dear white trash, here's just a small warning to u: in this little world of open networks, no one, including me and you white trash, can be totally transparent. finding who you are is not really a difficult thing, if you know a little bit IT tech, esp when you've published so many details here (nice job, thanks for ur cooperation). what's more exciting, now u could've been famous enough to draw attention from the public security agency in shanghai. even though u don't commit any crimes, your behavior is disgusting enough to cause trouble to your life if exposed, and u must've known this clearly. don't ever underestimate the intelligence of the people "interested in u" (in the sense of security), u can never catch even a tiny thread of their thinking. those sincere-looking people you see in Shanghai are usually much much smater than you white-trashes. in fact white-trashes like you who can only sell English for a living have just an IQ of an idiot, and are just trashes anywhere even in your own home country. Shanghai people treat u friendly because they see u as a guest. when they find who u really r (ie white trash), something interesting will happen to u from the once-sincere-and-friendly people whom u look down on. at that time, don't expect any protection from the law of the country u despise. in summary, to make words short and clear, YES YOU'RE TRACKED.

ChinaBounder's email: said...

Anonymous said..hi, my dear white trash…….people you see in Shanghai are usually much much smater than you white-trashes. in fact white-trashes like you who can only sell English for a living have just an IQ of an idiot, and are just trashes anywhere even in your own home country.

And people say I am racist!

In fact the Golden Shield guys have relatively little interest in tracking me down. They don’t really care what foreigners like me get up to.

They are far more interested in stopping Chinese people reading news and opinions they deem unfit. They are far more interested in stopping Chinese people getting an open-minded and balanced view of the world. They care far more about locking up Chinese journalists, such as Shi Tao, such as Zhao Yan. People like me simply do not matter.

You, and all the other angry people on this blog, would do better to look to the problems within your own country rather than getting worked up about one wholly irrelevant foreigner.

Indeed, as far as these jailers of the Chinese people’s minds are concerned, blogs like mine are a positive boon. They give short-sighted people like you (and all the other knee-jerk, angry commentators) an outlet to strut and shout that does not threaten their priorities. They know quite well that if people like you waste your time worrying about me, threatening dire punishments for me, then you will not have the time to think about the much greater iniquities of what your own leaders do to you.

If you, and all the other cursers and swearers, used one tenth of the ire you vent at me to address China’s true (and numerous) problems, the country would soon be a better place. But of course looking into yourself, and looking into the truth of your country, is a step too hard for you.

Far easier to have a crack at the `white trash,’ huh?

Anonymous said...

Dear Impotent Misongynous Chinese males

Please leave the poor guy alone before 'We' use our first world salaries to hire migrant workers from Anhui to cut off your blogging fingers and pluck out your offended eyes.

YES YOU'RE TRACKED.

Anonymous said...

I can't believe that this English bastard could be an English teacher in China!
As a Chinese in England, I have made some British friends and like our Chinese, most of them are very decent, kind and morally good and most of them respect China and Chinese people and culture. However, this English man is a totally bastard, pervert and sex monster and he is simply a ghost! He should feel shameful for what he has done in China and for what he has wrote even not for the sake of God but for the sake of his own mother and grandmother because they are also women!!!
A man who plays others is a man who is being played by others. A man who treats other as a tool is also a tool of others (this theory originates from a German Philosopher--Kant). From this point, this English bastard is a sex tool of those Chinese women including some old married ugly ones who had sex with him--a FREE SEX TOOL to them!!! I can't understand why he is so proud of this!
A man who doesn't respect others shouldn't be respected by others. He is a total beast without any basic humanity and morality so that we should treat him as a total beast. We should simply use weeps, knives and guns to deal with him! We should cut through his throat, chop off his head, smash his tiny cock, floating his body along Yangtze River, wash away his dirty blood in case it could dirt our holy land...I can't bear it any more!!!
Friends, Humans, Chinese, Westerners, men or women, let us stand together and work hard to get him! let us get rid of him ASAP and throw him out of China including Taiwan!
Thanks!

A Chinese from England

Anonymous said...

Chinabounder said... Far easier to have a crack at the `white trash,’ huh?
Far easier to fuck students, huh? You do not deserve to mention brave democracy dissents in China. You are nothing but a student fucker.

Anonymous said...

Please leave the poor guy alone before 'We' use our first world salaries to hire migrant workers from Anhui to cut off your blogging fingers and pluck out your offended eyes.

What a beast. No wonder they are bombing you.

I feel sorry for your decent fellow men. You do not have the previlige to say 'We' because you and they are very different.

Anonymous said...

Q for Chinabounder:
What have you done to solve England's problems?

ChinaBounder's email: said...

Anonymous said…I can't believe that this English bastard could be an English teacher in China!... He is a total beast without any basic humanity and morality so that we should treat him as a total beast. We should simply use weeps, knives and guns to deal with him! We should cut through his throat, chop off his head, smash his tiny cock, floating his body along Yangtze River, wash away his dirty blood in case it could dirt our holy land...I can't bear it any more!!!Friends, Humans, Chinese, Westerners, men or women, let us stand together and work hard to get him! let us get rid of him ASAP and throw him out of China including Taiwan!



I presume you, like many Chinese people, are in the UK getting the kind of education you need, the kind that China can’t provide.

If this is so, it is a pity that, so far, your education has taught you nothing about balance, judgment, perspective or rational argument.

I presume, also, that your education is being financed by your parents, who will have saved money many years, going without numerous comforts just to give you a better chance in life. It is a great pity you have squandered that chance. It is very obvious that you have rather few British friends; if you had, you would not have written such an ignorant and wildly overstated comment. I expect that you, like too many Chinese people in studying overseas, only have Chinese friends.

Indeed, unless your comment was an attempt at satire, you have learned shocking little in your time in the UK. To say '.. throw him out of China including Taiwan!' shows you have totally failed to open your mind in any way whatsoever. There you are in the UK, still trailing round your absurd idea that Taiwan is part of China – something you believe so fervently, and so unthinkingly, that you cannot help but repeat it every time you mention the mainland.

It is a shame that you have missed the chance to develop into more than the person you currently are.

ChinaBounder's email: said...

Anonymous said…Q for Chinabounder: What have you done to solve England's problems?

I cannot go too far into that without firstly revealing who I am and secondly seeming to boast. But, briefly, I worked for several years for H4H, as well as in an environmental pressure group at Westminster. I also did a stint helping in a project related with mental health.

None of this matters, however; whether you believe the above or not, or whether I have done anything or not to ‘solve problems’ has no bearing on my right to point out the problems I see around me.

Anonymous said...

If you, and all the other cursers and swearers, used one tenth of the ire you vent at me to address China’s true (and numerous) problems, the country would soon be a better place. But of course looking into yourself, and looking into the truth of your country, is a step too hard for you.

Oh my GOD that's hypocritical and ironic. How many words have you written ranting on Mao and Chinese men, and how many have you written about your countrymen committing atrocities in Iraq on a daily basis, for just one example? Easy to point fingers, isn't it? Not so easy to practice what you preach, I take it?

Anonymous said...

To say 'Mao did nothing good in his life' shows you have totally failed to open your mind in any way whatsoever. There you are in China, still trailing round your absurd idea that Mao is 100% evil – something you believe so fervently, and so unthinkingly, that you cannot help but repeat it every time you mention him.

Anonymous said...

http://whoischinabounder.blogspot.com/


1. Lives in Shanghai. (Came to China six years ago.)
2. From England. (Also spent time in Germany and Australia)
3. He was born in the year of the dog - therefore, 36 years old.
4. Teaches english in various universities.
5. Knows Jiao Tong university well.
6. Gives his msn/email to students at the end of classes.
7. Lives on or near Huai Hai Road.
8. Reasonably good spoken/written Chinese.
9. Email address: chinabounder@gmail.com (Spam it if you wish.)
10. Employment in England has included: working for several years for H4H; working as well as in an environmental pressure group at Westminster; working in a project related with mental health.


PLEASE ASSIST by adding the relevant blog passage to the below FOOTNOTES:


2.
LITTLE BLACK BOOK -- Friday, August 25, 2006
“… she reminded me of a girlfriend back in England … And this particular girlfriend back in England was a long term part of my life, and the years I spent in Germany and then Australia.”

7.
SEDUCING CHRISTINE #4 -- Saturday, August 19, 2006
“So after eating we walked along Huai Hai Road back to my place.”

8.
Six yrs in China + Frequent use of Chinese in blog.

9.
As recorded in his “Profile” for his website.

10. LITTLE BLACK BOOK -- Friday, August 25, 2006 -- (as he wrote in the comments section)
“I worked for several years for H4H, as well as in an environmental pressure group at Westminster. I also did a stint helping in a project related with mental health.”

Anonymous said...

你的大脑有问题吗,你以为你是谁??你知道什么,你有多了解中国,你这个自以为是的畜牲,我生为中国的女人,生为中国一位的大学生,让我发表几点:1.对于你能勾引到中国最没有品位女人有什么好值得骄傲的,为什么中国有修养的有品位的漂亮女人未曾看过你一眼.要知道中国最低贱的才愿意和你这样的人打交道,物以类聚,人以群分. 2,你怎么知道中国的男人没有能力,你之前是否与中国男人有过关系,比如被中国男人上过,没有满足,所以才有这个经历之谈,如果没有,那么怎么知道的,还是你的那些俗不可耐中国的女人在想和你做爱之前对你抱怨的,请记住了,也许她们只是为了和你做爱,所以为了达到这个目的才在你面前故做委屈,说她们的男人怎样,但是也许你不知道也只有你这样的白痴才会被欺骗.其实也许你不知道,她们私底下是多么的满足她们的中国男人的能力.而你,竟然愚昧到会相信这一切的程度,从而导致你犯下如此大的错误,想想你多么的可悲啊.而更可悲的是你竟然还没有意识到这些,还在那里象疯狗一样的发颠.3.你以为你是谁,你怎么知道中国的历史文化,你这样的一个小小的流氓外籍老师,以为自己学了一点中文,在中国呆了几年,玩了几个丑陋的老婆婆,在中国就开始滔滔不绝的谈论中国,真是可笑!!

Anonymous said...

To the violent racist Chinese bastards: don't be violent racist Chinese bastards.

Learn to accept the fact that your anger stems from the fact that you're jealous he's banging hot Shanghaiese chicks, and you're too stymied by your feelings of inadequacy to make a move on the woman you are interested in.

Chinabounder isn't a racist, simply a lascivious, perceptive guy who has a good talent for putting words together.

Anonymous said...

Damn. This keeps getting better and better. It's like they never learn. Call them all racists and they go out of their way to prove the point. If you tweaked your words just a bit, maybe they would go marching over a cliff.

Anonymous said...

I want to ask this stupid SCOTISH BASTARD:

WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE HISTORICAL FACT--ENGLISH SOLDIERS RAPED AND FUCKED YOUR SCOTISH WOMEN DURING THE INDEPENDENT WARS OF ENGLAND-SCOTLAND? I guess they must have enjoyed the fucking very much?

Now like what you wrote: I have many decent British friends in UK and even one of my ex-girlfriends was Scotish. She is a very kind and decent lady from Fife and she is so shamed about you and so shocked by what you did in China! Dare you give me your home address so that i can visit your hometown and let us talk this face to face if you back home. let those rational and kind SCOTISH fishmen taught you a good lesson--you, a black sheep of Scotish people!

PLEASE SAY SORRY TO ALL CHINESE, SCOTISH, NO, to ALL HUMANS FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE!

Don't be stupid again!

The more you write, the more mad and stupid you are!

I am not going to rely any comments from you again because you are not worthy it.

Anonymous said...

Facts? He is talking about historical facts? Run for cover! The scotish are coming!

Anonymous said...

Why is there no one on the other side of this argument, the western people, talking about this white trash as student fucker? They accuse Chinese of being angry and argue for this white trash, pretending not to know he is a student fucker.

Is this because they have too many student fuckers in high schools and colleges in their western contries?

Anonymous said...

Could it be... Could it possibly be... No. It can't be... Because thats impossible. Is there really people in this world who DO NOT GIVE A DAMN and ARE PLAYING YOU LIKE FOOLS because it is VERY VERY FUNNY.

...Shut your fucking face student fucka
You're a cock sucking ass licking student fucka
You're an student fucka, yes its true
Nobody fucks students quite like you...

Anonymous said...

Chinabounder said...If this is so, it is a pity that, so far, your education has taught you nothing about balance, judgment, perspective or rational argument.

Your education has taught you fucking around is OK and you became a so miserable and disgusting student fucker. I don't know which is worse.

Anonymous said...

Why is there no one on the other side of this argument, the western people, talking about this white trash as student fucker?

Uh, first off learn what "White Trash" means. Using it to describe a brit just makes you sound ignorant.

Second, he's not sleeping with a student while he's still their teacher. He's not a professor so he doesn't have a duty not to sleep with any students within the college.

Third, some of his actions are bad. Lying to a woman thinking that she's going to get a romantic English boyfriend, when he's really just after a quick fuck, is bad. If he was upfront with what he wanted, or if the woman implicitly understood what was going on, as this Clarissa does, I wouldn't have much issue with anything but the adultery. I don't have major issues with promiscuity, but sleeping with married women seems to be risking destroying their lives in exchange for a momentary pleasure.

Anonymous said...

First, maybe I would still call him an "English Gentleman".

Second, yes, he is. Look at his blogs carefully please.

In your third point, you are kind of using Mr. Clinton's strategy.

No wonder western people are called "hypocritical" in many developing countries.

Anonymous said...

Chinabounder said...If you, and all the other cursers and swearers, used one tenth of the ire you vent at me to address China’s true (and numerous) problems, the country would soon be a better place.

... so that you can come and fuck more women students who are interested in studying English? Your words make sense. It just does not make sense that those words come out from your mouth.

Anonymous said...

I don't understand why it is such a big deal? Why all the fuss? They are good stories and they seem real, maybe not typical. Chinabounder has a good grasp of some Chinese women's mind - you have to admit, especially in SH, to marry or date a white man makes them feel superior ... Eventually, they will figure out no matter where they are from, men are made equal...

Anonymous said...

Again, something you feel no big deal can be thought terribly wrong and hideous by others. The main stream understanding of "freedom" in the west is not necessarily grounded and accepted in other parts of the world.

Sounds familiar? Think about why those Londoners became bombers.

The western people may never learn or agree with this, as the other side may never learn what "men are made equal" means.

Anonymous said...

http://blog.phoenixtv.com/user3/zhangjiehai/archives/2006/299423.html
for ur own good,u got to read this post in chinese,if u can`t understand chinese,find help from ur chinese girls.

亲爱的各位网友,不,各位同胞们:



今天我怀着无比愤怒的心情告诉大家一个外国流氓的故事,并号召各位国人同胞一起行动起来,将这个外国流氓清扫出中国。



事情的经过是这样的:几天前,一位网友告诉了我一个在上海的英国人的博克。我看了以后震惊、气愤、恶心……,看了他的博克之后,我只有一个念头:是可忍,孰不可忍?一定要把这个垃圾找出来,把他赶出中国!!!



他在博克里,用极其淫秽、肮脏的语言记录了他--一个在上海的外教--利用教师的身份,在上海玩弄中国女人的过程,而这些中国女人大部分竟然是他的学生;与此同时,他又极尽所能侮辱、诋毁、歪曲中国政府和中国男性。



他在博克的一开始是这样描述他在上海的生活的:“所以,你们看,这个星期六我和Star在一起,星期天我和Yingying在一起。中间我通过MSN和Cherry联系,打一个电话给Rina,用SMS挑逗Tulip。Suasn我给她发了一封Email调情,并通过Wendy的博客向她求爱。”



这个垃圾在博克里公开宣称,他纯粹只是为了玩弄这些中国女学生。他说,“我们不谈爱,不谈婚姻,甚至不谈住在一起”他竟然有一次厚颜无耻地说,“我已经厌倦了她,X(女性生殖器)是X,我留着她只是为了以后再玩弄她。”



这位垃圾的拿手好戏是,用及其淫秽、黄色的语言描绘中国女性的身体和他们做爱的过程。比如,“我亲爱的婷婷,你有一个极好的、漂亮的身体;我无法停止想念你漂亮的皮肤,你可爱、光滑、柔软的乳房,你性感、光滑、精致的小腹,你甜美、优雅的大腿和手臂……哦,当然,在你的两腿之间,你是多么的漂亮,多么的性感,多么的完美!



这位垃圾还极度自恋。在他的笔下,所有的中国女人还都在第一次脱衣服之前自惭形秽地说“我的乳房太小”,而当他脱了裤子之后,中国女人又都惊叹道:“你的鸡把真大!”哪怕这个女的是一个处女、这是她的第一次也不例外。



婷婷是一个已婚妇女,这个垃圾在描写他玩弄婷婷的过程中,时时不忘讽刺挖苦婷婷的丈夫、然后又指所有的中国男人不能满足中国女人。



中国男人在他的笔下,除了性能力低下之外,简直就是丑陋无比。一次他连用了三个dull(呆滞的)来形容中国男人(Chinese men are dull, dull, dull.)。他说,中国女人通常能听懂他的恭维。但是,中国男人通常不懂(China Man(请注意Chinaman是对中国人的歧视性称呼), generally, is not)。



他举例说,他对上海女人说,我一看就知道你是上海人。这个上海女人就会理解这是一句恭维的话,表明这个女人外表很时尚、很现代。可是,有一次在课堂上,他对一个男学生说“你是上海人吗?”,这个学生竟然反问他,你是怎么看出来的。于是,他下结论说:“这表明中国男人是怎样的一条感觉迟钝的、缺乏想象的鱼。(This goes to show what a stolid and unimaginative fish China Man(请注意,他再一次用歧视色彩的词来称呼中国男人)can be.)”



从这里也可以看出这个垃圾的无知。中国人都知道,对一个上海男人说他像上海人不是恭维他。恰恰相反,只有说他不像上海人才有可能是恭维。



无知却丝毫不妨碍他信口雌黄。他说,“所有中国的不幸都怪在别人头上。中国总要找一个人来责备。从国家主席到普通民众都是这样。中国人,总的来说,对自己的社会一无所知,也完全没有兴趣去了解。”

Anonymous said...

Q for Chinabounder: In America, teacher who has an affair with one of his students will lose his job. Why are you so proud of what you did in China? You are just taking advantage of the fact that China is still a developing country. It is a shame.

Anonymous said...

传统美德十章八则

孝以顺敬双亲,劬劳报恩,人子事亲,顺承意命,克尽天良
悌以手足情深,恭兄友弟,兄友弟恭,穆穆棣棣,和气相亲
忠以尽责力行,事持坚贞,谒诚尽责,献身国族,正直无私
信以履约崇实,言出必行,一诺千金,言重九鼎,诚实毋疑
礼以伦常宗守,蹈矩循规,分别尊卑,谦恭逊让,言行安份
义以公道合理,贯彻初衷,患难相扶,荣辱与共,无分贵贱
廉以俭朴不苟,清白毋贪,知足常乐,操守高洁,俭朴节约
耻以私欲有戒,心身知辱,不贪财色,知足常乐,明所羞惭
仁以天道博爱,毋轻伤残,爱已及人,体恤天物,博遵人道
智以聪明悉辨,力学求知,广求见识,审察是非,奋发自励

不欺:恶臭以慎独 不伪:虔衷以诚意
不贪:戒争以崇义 不妄:正心以格欲
不骄:虚怀以纳善 不怠:奋力以为功
不怨:恕人以消恨 不恶:去憎以通情

Anonymous said...

actually I am more concerned about Chinabounder himself than the women he slept with. have you all guys heard of the term"sex addicts"? that is essentailly what chinabounder is. he has serious issues. do you have bad experience in your childhood, Chinabounder?? Get some help now. professional help, I mean.You are like a "sex slave" to me, coz you could not control your life in a meaningful way. Help yourself, Chinabounder!

Anonymous said...

传统美德十章八则

《十章》

孝:教道奉行,敬养父母报亲恩。
悌:悌爱恭拥,手足情深永同心。
忠:忠心耿耿,正直无私持坚贞。
信:信念崇实,践行为要诚与眞。
礼:礼仪相待,谦卑逊让互恭敬。
义:义无反顾,患难共扶度荣辱。
廉:廉俭朴素,知足勿贪守亮节。
耻:耻辱警戒,知其羞愧行正规。
仁:仁慈博爱,怜悯万物皆细护。
智:智悉眞理,辨审世道了习俗。

《八则》

不欺:恶臭以慎独 不伪:虔衷以诚意
不贪:戒争以崇义 不妄:正心以格欲
不骄:虚怀以纳善 不怠:奋力以为功
不怨:恕人以消恨 不恶:去憎以通情

Anonymous said...

CHINABOUNDER:

although I do not agree with your behaviours and some of the things you wrote, you seem to be an intelligent guy. And I am in no position to judge your life and choices. But there is ONE thing, ONLY ONE thing, I would really like you t keep in mind when writing your next entry. that is, please do not believe every word those women said to you. ..esp. their commnents about their bfs/husbands. Women play games, chinese women are no exception. PLEASE also do no make any generalisation about Chinese men. I have had both Chinese bfs and white bfs. There are no such great differences between them as your blog seeems to suggest, as far as sex goes. Of course individuals differ, but that is another issue.
everyone else who have really known chinese women and/or are Chinese can see through those words, but yo seem not to. A shame. This is the only time that makes me think you are not as bright as I think you are.
To be frank, you seem to know well how to lure chinese girls into your bed, but all in all, you are still a very simple guy when it comes to China and Chinese women.

Anonymous said...

you r such son of bitch, u r the honor of your nation---the wihte pig nation.

losser

your mother,wife, sister and daughter will suck my dick tonight.we will fuck for whole night~~

Will u told us your name and address, withe pig? will u dule like a man? no,u r a losser. u don't have the courage.

Anonymous said...

Chinabounder:

It is not really about the stupid arrogant racist comments you gave. Seriously, who gives a fuck on the words of u, a 34 years old Englishmen teaching English in Shanghai…

It is certainly not about sleeping around. Feel free to enjoy the SH sluts while pleasing them with ur sweet words, knee job and ur allegedly big thing…

It is about cheating and adultery, which is hardly a crime, but enough to ruin families.

It is about lack of respect for women, although I don’t know for sure if your SH lovers deserve the respect.

It is about unethical teaching, as many have pointed out

SH males who commented:

Please do not waste your time tracking him down. And please do not hurt him, physically. That would be inappropriate. Once you find out who he is, what u can do, to serve the justice, is to:
1.Let the girls know
2.Let the cheated husbands and BFs know
3.Let the school know
It is up to the real victims to decide what to do

A Beijinger

Anonymous said...

Clearly he abhors everything about China and Chinese people and he's there for the bodies of Chinese women, and that alone. What's disgusting is he conceals his hatred toward them for the sake of screwing them. Look at how condescending he is to Chinese people here, where it doesn't interfere with the anonymous coward's chances of scoring. Some Chinese girl mentions being in England and he launches into a diatribe about how stupid she is and how she ruined her parents life. Do you think he acts that way and reveals his infinite contempt for Chinese people to the girls he meets? Of course not, he pretends to be human for the duration of his chances of getting laid. Little do they know what a clueless, hate-filled fuck he is who has absolutely nothing in common with them. Shitface.

Anonymous said...

Beijinger: Good summary and words.

I don't think this trash would understand or agree, though. I guess where he grew up, people including his Dad and Mom enjoyed sleeping around. And cheating (called playing games) and adultery are a part of everyday life in today's UK already. The "English Gentlemen" love it, enjoy it, become used to it.

Conveniently, ShangHai is somehow becoming westernized too, at least in terms of those women playing cheating.

So, this trash thought Chinese are just like that, which agreed with his hometown life style, in terms of sex life.

The problem is, how hypocritical they have become to the extreme, when they are babbering "love actually", "sex with emotional anchor", while commiting cheating, adultery, and "playing games".

Anonymous said...

If you like to know how severe the problem of sex life is in UK, a UK movie called "love actually" is a good reference.

I daubt this trash would use lots of "love" words to allure those women. That scene would be like a pig singing american anthelem -- the words are right, but not the mouth.

I am leaving this site, sort of fed up with it.

Anonymous said...

Atleast the beijinger has showed us what a rational person who is against chinabounder's behaviour might do. Instead of frothing at the mouth talking about murder, he has reacted very rationally ... you should all look to him as an example of civilized behavior, even when he disagrees with someone's actions. Commendable.

I think the difference between china and the west is that in the west we grow up with a sense of basic human rights. And we accept that everyone has these rights. CB has done nothing wrong, he has sex with willing partners ... so fucking what? He has sex with multiple partners ... SO FUCKING WHAT? And maybe if the husband did his job and kept his wife happy in their marriage, they wouldnt even think of being with CB ... CB does not cause the problems in your society, he is just there living.

And if you want to talk about morals, how about the 14 whore houses on every fucking block? A the slave labor that they are put through? And you know what? they wouldn't be in business without all the "upright and morally correct" young men ... and MARRIED MEN who go to visit them every day.

You say CB uses women ... and yet your government turns it's head while prostitution houses run rampant ... karaoke bars offer prostitution, and bar girls will fuck you if you flash a couple 100 yuan. The chinese populace cries out to be used by anyone and everyone. Maybe they feel like if they get used by other nations, it will help take them away from the ridiculous oppression happening in every corner of their society.

You act like no chinese people do any immoral things, and when a foreigner ADMITS to certain acts, you go shit crazy over it. Fucking ignorant assholes. And before you start attacking me ... though I know you will anyway ... I love china, I love chinese people and I love chinese culture (pre-communism), and I think it's a horrible shame that fuckheads like the angry people who post comments present such an ugly face to the world.

Funny how you just now find out about this site because CHINA FUCKED UP AND ACCIDENTALLY UNBLOCKED IT FROM THEIR BANNED LIST. You let your government lead you around like mindless sheep you fucking drones.

And as for fucking students ... I bet he enjoys fucking students, young women take care of their bodies and hygene much better than older women.

In my opinion, somewhere down the line these women would probably look back and thank CB because he opened their eyes to the real world ... and for all you fucking idiots out there, that doesn't mean "because CB was good in bed" or anything like that. It means he gave them a glimpse of what it's like to not have to marry as soon as you graduate college and live your life in an unfulling and unhappy marriage to some jerkoff who will come home and beat you if you don't have dinner ready, sit on the sofa and drink beer till he passes out watching CCTV5 for the latest ping pong scores, Leaving you to clean up after the kids and then sit dutifully besides the husband waiting for him to beat you again. Yea, chinese men sure are awesome to women. If you didn't treat them like shit, they wouldn't look for foreigners. Even if we're just looking to fuck them, we treat them 10x better than you do when you marry them. Use this as a fucking wake up call and treat your women the way they should be treated you fucks.

Fuck you all, If any of the angry anonymous posters have the courage to post their names and addresses. I'll come to each and every one of their houses and list every chinese girl I've fucked to their fucking faces, and then spit on them. If you think I'll get in even 1 fight you are wrong because every single one of these anonymous posters are fucking pussy faggots who avoid real confrontation at any costs.

While studying in china I had quite a few chinese student friends ... they actually asked me for tips on how to approach women. And you know what? after I told them "just go talk to them and be yourself" they got girls too ... and you know what? they certainly werent mad at me about it ... they took me out to dinner. You'd probably be a lot less uptight if you found a real girl to fuck instead of paying your local prostitute to jack you off and then studying for 14 hours a day. Learn to live you fucking fucknuts ... and learn that "living" is different for every person and that every person should be free to do as he pleases with whomever consents to doing it with him.

Go get fucked. it will open your eyes.


I hope all the smart, rational chinese people out there ... and there are alot of you ... can talk some sense into these fucking idiots, good luck.

Anonymous said...

"Love Actually" is a fucking romantic comedy drama starring Hugh Grant ... do you believe that this movie bears any semblence to reality? What a fucking pitiful sheltered life you've led if that is the case.

And yea ... Shanghai is becoming westernized ... is that a surprise to you? Because it's actually the whole fucking aim of your entire government since Deng XiaoPing took over. What a fucking masterclass performance your government has turned in driving the whole nation towards "westernization" but making you resent the west with every single step.

Anonymous said...

I was expecting to see real great threads here but was really pissed off by the garbage writing. I doubt these are only your fantasies for your own jerk-off. But since you said the stoires are for your own pleasure, i guess it means you use it to please yourself when you cannot perform. lol

You only live in your fantasies and wet dreams. unfortuantely i see you nobody but a dirty old fuck that was used up by a few unsatisfying women. I guess they are not satisfied with you either. LMAO

Anonymous said...

It's funny to see the chinese men here talk about "love words" and CB's methods of obtaining women ... when their methods of obtaining women all involve using their guanxi to have someone else set up a marriage before they even try to date. Try talking to a woman you asshats, you might learn something. Like how to not sound like a morally uptight piece of shit.

Anonymous said...

The difference between you and CB: he is a student fucker.

The similarity between you and those Chinese mobs: how low you can be.

The uniqueness of you and CB: mix legal and moral criteria.

I cannot imagine how embarassing the founding fathers of your systems would be when they know "basic human rights" are the rights to fucking around, cheating and frivolous adultery.

Anonymous said...

yea ... unfortunately i'm not talking about "The Bill of Rights" you fucking idiot. I'm talking about Human Rights ... you know, the thing your country doesn't have. I'd like to hear more of what you think about the founding fathers of the United States, though ... sounds like you know a whole lot, and I'm sure you got a nice good view of them from your textbook in the chinese educational system.

Conveniently taking pieces of what I wrote is a fun excersize I'm sure ... the people who post here seem to be quite adept at it ... but take a second to realize that I was talking about the actions of two consenting adults, and how there is nothing wrong with what they are doing. And here's another piece of information, he hasn't done anything with Clarissa the "married" girl, so there goes the adultery issue. Trying to fuck a married women isn't a crime, and it's not even adultery.

How low am I? I single out only the people who come here and make horrible comments about a person they don't know ... completely seperating the rational and smart citizens of china who I love and respect?

I can't imagine how embarassed the founding fathers of my system would be when they look at china's government and see a system completely devoid of human rights. To look at a man and think he is immoral is one thing ... and it is every man's right to have an opinion (except in china), but to go so far as to threaten his life, and put all that he knows in danger is wrong. Are you beginning to understand what I'm talking about?

Anonymous said...

And you know what's great about our system? that we include the basic rights that all people share ... like the rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. They were smart enough not to define "happiness" because they realized it's different for every person, and every person has the right to try and find it however they wish, as long as they are not infringing on the same rights of another person ... and since everything CB has done is consentual, you should shut the fuck up.

Anonymous said...

I stand by everything you condemned China.

I wish China will be an open country one day.

And, another thing I am beginning to understand is why terrorists are bombing you and you are so freaking out.

Chinese will not kill you, sit back and rest.

Anonymous said...

I see what you try to imply. I should truly shut your fuck up.

You are stealing to replace the moral concept by legal concept. You bastard.

Anonymous said...

And do not conveniently escape from the accusation that CB is a disgusting student fucker.

Anonymous said...

Well Lets talk about Double Standards

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=49169

"Don't have sex with your students."

- Yup, this is from an America.

That's the simple, straightforward message a Florida judge wants to tell teachers.

- Last I hard Florida is in America

"I'm asking for 30 minutes ... just to emphasize that this is a situation that is against the law," Orange Circuit Judge Bob Wattles told the Orlando Sentinel.

- Against the Law, and against Professionalism too.

"I'm going to emphasize that you can throw away your whole career."

- So what's wrong with what people say about Chinabounder? It is because they are Chinese?

"These kids can sometimes be very aggressive. It's not always the teacher stalking the child," he added.

He explained his proposal in a letter to the local school board, and is now awaiting a response.

Wattles is hoping to go on tour accompanied by Dang Van Dinh, a former high-school teacher he sentenced to five years in prison for illicit relations with a female student.

"He said he'd be willing to do it in the hopes that another young teacher wouldn't make the same mistakes," Wattles said.

Dinh, 31, pleaded guilty to having a nearly year-long sexual relationship with a girl at Boone High School in Orlando. He told the judge he didn't plan the relationship, but "honestly fell in love with her."

In Friday, July 27, 2001

New state law really makes sex between teachers, teens a crime

Friday, July 27, 2001

By REBEKAH DENN
SEATTLE POST-INTELLIGENCER REPORTER

It was a crime, Lake Washington School District parents said: a high school counselor having sex with a student.

Except, as it turned out, it wasn't a crime -- at least not at the time -- because the student was 17, above the age of consent in Washington.

Professional codes of conduct bar sexual contact between school employees and all students. But, if the students were 16 or older, such contact wasn't always considered illegal until a new bill addressing the topic passed the Legislature last month.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/32940_teacherbill27.shtml


So stop making silly excuses about Freedom of Speech and action and twisting it to your benefit.

Its wrong, no matter where it is, America, Britain or China.

Last I hear, I hear Pot, Kettle and Black.

Anonymous said...

I saw a lot of poor UK guys like you in China. The only thing you have is just a mouth and a dick!

Anonymous said...

I don't know why are people defending this guy against the indefensible. Try doing the same in America and Europe. Most of the States and Countries have laws against such actions.

Freedom of action? How about the rule of law?

And there is also the fact Chinabounder is a guest in China and overstaying his welcome.

If you go into someone house, you certainly can't do what you want. This is China not America. I know China isn't a good example for illustrating the values of free speech and democracy. But try writing a blog on sleeping with students when teaching in a certain high school in say Kanses. There will be a witchhunt and a search party with full State support.

Anonymous said...

what a stupid soft cock! fuck off and get out of the country. what really surprised me is that such rubbish even think he can make good stories, without any intelligence.

it is a shame that you can be a human being.

Anonymous said...

hey James: will you accept that: after fucked your doughter, I write a blog about james's doughter is bitch, she is easy to fuck? will your doughter accept before fuck I say:u r lovly, after I say: u r such bitch? Is that about human right? no, i don't think so. it's about BC is just a fucking white pig

Anonymous said...

Well, ppl from a small island are really short-sighted and knows nothing but being arrogance. What you have written clearly tells us what a typical english jerk can be. english chicks have their 'attractive' pear shape body which is quite famous around world. Probably that's why you are getting so sick out of this.

engisland has nothing but its legacy dreams being a kingdom without sunset. but now, you only get endless raining and dark winters in the island. that's probably why you leave the hell and go to china.

wake up, mate! have a glance of what engisland is now: anti-social behaviour, excessive drinking, knife crime, and students cannot even read properly when they are enrolled in unis... the only thing you left to be proud of is ur fucking ability. Ironically, based on a survey to men in the world, english men, without any doubts, have the shortest erection time, less than 2 mins. congratulations!

i am deeply sorry for those nice britons who could be humiliated becos of you and your behaviour.

Anonymous said...

YOU ARE SICK! GET OUT OF HIER!!

Anonymous said...

Hi,chinabounder, forget about those hot-heads. i am a chinese, i like the blog and the stories you provided.

ChinaBounder's email: said...

Anonymous said… still trailing round your absurd idea that Mao is 100% evil – something you believe so fervently

For which I presented evidence.

Would you care to tell me about something good, kind, decent and honorable he did?

Anonymous said...

For which I presented evidence.

Would you care to tell me about something good, kind, decent and honorable he did?


Holy crap you are an idiot. You think listing some bad things a person did is presenting evidence that they never did anything good? Nope, it's not, you fucking idiot. You have zero understanding of logic and argument. Did you even graduate college? You have presented absolutely no evidence that he never did anything good.

Here you go, he created the first laws in China banning arranged marriages, prostitution, and selling of women. Hey look, your argument just got destroyed, moron.

And how could you know whether he was ever good, kind, and decent to anyone around him? You don't know, yet it doesn't stop you from baselessly believing whatever you want to believe. You're a brainwashed fool and clearly lack understanding of balance, judgment, perspective or rational argument.

Anonymous said...

hi, chinese guys if you are living in overseas, please click this link:
http://news.wenxuecity.com/BBSView.php?SubID=news&MsgID=300407

if you are living in mainland of china, you can not get access to this web-www.wenxuecity.com you know why? bcz chinese government has blocked up this web site for some reasons.

Anonymous said...

http://www.china247.com/news/2006-08-14/99457.shtml

http://www.chinameetusa.com/post/postpage.php?id=1155590968

诸位,看看中国人是如何形容英国人的吧!死板,愚蠢,懒惰,没礼貌,相貌丑陋。。。。
我知道,如果一个英国人这样形容中国人,肯定会被大家一顿狂贬。但是,我不知道英国人看了这篇文章后会有什么想法。也和你们一样,暴怒,狂骂??????

我们可以做一个实验,哪位英文好的人士把这篇文章翻译成英文,然后放到一个很流行的英文网站上,看看他们是如何反应的!

到时候,一切都不言自明了!

Anonymous said...

F**k off Stupid English! You stupid bustard!

Anonymous said...

If you want to fuck my non-existant daughter and write a blog about it ... more power to you, being an american she'd probably laugh at the size of your tiny dick. Infact, she'd probably tell me about it and we'd laugh at you together.

Also, He's not going into anyone's house and doing anything, he's in his own house or in public areas. Furthermore, there are no laws against consentual sex ... AND he doesnt sleep with the students while they are still his students. If a college professor or a highschool teacher dates a student after they have passed out of his sphere of influence, there is nothing wrong with it ... and no one would complain

Anonymous said...

http://www.china247.com/news/2006-08-14/99457.shtml

http://www.chinameetusa.com/post/postpage.php?id=1155590968

these are 2 web links of an article, wroten by a chinese who is studying in england. in this article he tells about how the english people look like: very conservative, stupid, lazy, rude,and ugly.
we can do an experiment like this: translating this article into english and post it onto several popular english web sites and then just find how they feel when they see this article wrotten by a chinese.
do they respond as severely as these chinese people do?
who knows?

Anonymous said...

As I said, it seems you dont care.
I will chanllange you, if you really bear a politicaly correct attitude,
when you marry a genune "nth hand",
please claim loudly to the world,
"she is nth hand, she was f..ked again and again and again before i do..."

then I think you are consistent and not hypocritical.



ChinaBounder said...

As I've said, many guys fetishize virginity. ....

Anonymous said...

You are a duck! haha...let the chef cook u to the crispy duck! English ppl like eating crispy duck. you are very funny, mate! Why not get ur dirty buns out off our beautiful country? u are damaging ur country's reputation all over China. Hope you will be sacked soon!!! Good luck mate! Oops, becareful of AIDS! 88...

Anonymous said...

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Funny isnt it?
Like u ,duck duck!
A funny duck!
Showing off its stupid!

ChinaBounder's email: said...

East Meets West said…If you like to know how severe the problem of sex life is in UK, a UK
movie called "love actually" is a good reference.


You mention a Richard Curtis film as a guide to England? If that is your idea of reality then you have zero credibility. Clearly you have never been to England. You have no idea of what you are talking about.

Anonymous said...

ChinaBounder said...

As I've said, many guys fetishize virginity. ....

u did not get my point.
i guess that's why you fail to get a decent assignment in your own country...,

back 2 my point, all i'm interested in is taht whether your wife, then your daughter was f..ked again, again and again before she gets married. Please follow me, read it loudly, "AGAIN, AGAIN and AGAIN" ,


May Maria of Magdalene bless you, man.

ChinaBounder's email: said...

Anonymous said…Here you go, he created the first laws in China banning arranged marriages, prostitution, and selling of women. Hey look, your argument just got destroyed, moron.

He had nothing to do with the laws banning foot-binding.

He said little about prostitution. Indeed, his greatest interest in the matter was procuring women for himself. But he did not give a fuck about women’s rights.

He not only failed to ban the selling of women, his disastrous polices led to the increased selling of women, and children too.

I think you need to read more history.

Anonymous said...

I have to admit i'm barking at the wrong tree since ChinaBounder is not yet married.


Here is the question,
ChinaBounder, was your mom f**ked again and again and again before she got married? Are you a true son of your legal father? Or, u don't have father at all?

ChinaBounder's email: said...

anonymous said...But try writing a blog on sleeping with students when teaching in a certain high school in say Kanses. There will be a witchhunt and a search party with full State support.


Perhaps you ought to read more carefully before you comment.

I never sleep with students. Only ex-students. And they are never of high school age. All are adults.

ChinaBounder's email: said...

ffffffff said…I have to admit i'm barking at the wrong tree since ChinaBounder is not yet married. Here is the question, ChinaBounder, was your mom f**ked again and again and again before she got married? Are you a true son of your legal father? Or, u don't have father at all?


Again, I find it telling that you ask if my mother had had lots of lovers before marriage, but not my father. Once more you make it clear that you do not treat men and women equally.

But of course I would not care how many lovers either of my parents had before their marriage. Why would I? My mind is not medieval.

Genetic paternity, for what it is worth, is also a non-issue. I love my parents because they have raised me, not because 34 years ago my Dad fucked my Mum. If I was adopted they would still be every bit as much my parents as if I was their biological child.

Anonymous said...

He had nothing to do with the laws banning foot-binding.

He said little about prostitution. Indeed, his greatest interest in the matter was procuring women for himself. But he did not give a fuck about women’s rights.

He not only failed to ban the selling of women, his disastrous polices led to the increased selling of women, and children too.

I think you need to read more history.


Hilarious and wrong. You've been brainwashed by one-sided, inaccurate, anti-Chinese propaganda. You know nothing about Chinese history. I think you need to put down the propaganda and read credible, objective sources of history. Of course, I'm expecting too much from you, it seems the only thing you'll read is whatever reinforces your baseless, misinformed preconceived notions.

Anonymous said...

ChinaBounder said...
... you do not treat men and women equally.

But of course I would not care how many lovers either of my parents had before their marriage. Why would I? My mind is not medieval....

Thou are away of topic again.
You are not married yet, thus you might not care.

You said not care, does that mean when i see you father, if i say "hi, Mr. XXX, congratulations that your wife was penetrated again and again and again by jews, blacks, chineses, japaneses, Mr Bin La Den, muslims, spannish, american, french, german, autalian, Visigoth, and maybe ...", i wont get a big slam on the face, right?

ChinaBounder's email: said...

Anonymous said…Hilarious and wrong. You've been brainwashed by one-sided, inaccurate, anti-Chinese propaganda. You know nothing about Chinese history.

Then you will have no problem in giving me a reference for the claims you make about Mao.

ChinaBounder's email: said...

Anonymous said…You said not care, does that mean when i see you father, if i say "hi, Mr. XXX, congratulations that your wife was penetrated again and again and again by jews, blacks, chineses, japaneses, Mr Bin La Den, muslims, spannish, american, french, german, autalian, Visigoth, and maybe ...", i wont get a big slam on the face, right?

I should be angry if my mother had a Jewish boyfriend before she got married? If she dated a Muslim?

When you’re in a hole, stop digging.

Anonymous said...

ffffffffffffffffffffffffffff said...
You said not care, does that mean when i see you father, if i say "hi, Mr. XXX, congratulations that your wife was penetrated again and again and again by jews, blacks, chineses, japaneses, Mr Bin La Den, muslims, spannish, american, french, german, autalian, Visigoth, and maybe ...", i wont get a big slam on the face, right?

Yes, because we know there is nothing worse than a woman who has been fucked by a Jew, or a black, or a Spainard. Racist Chinese? Who would have imagined!

Anonymous said...

ChinaBounder said...
My mind is not medieval....

so, to you non-medieval-minded guys, I assume this question at the party
to you "have many guys f..ked your wife before you do" or to your wife "how many guys f..ked you before your husband does" won't be offensive at all, right?

And seems you are extremely open minded, so any stranger can stop you on the road asking such question without getting a hit on the face, right?

Maybe further, may you say u'll welcome such questions and you'll be happy to help to identify each occurence your wife was penetrated, robbet, blablabla...?

If answer is no, please tell why.

Anonymous said...

No... because it's none of your business.

That's why.

Anonymous said...

ChinaBounder said..."Perhaps you ought to read more carefully before you comment. I never sleep with students. Only ex-students. And they are never of high school age. All are adults."

Yes, you are right. But I still do not think it is right for someone that does adultery and cheat to be a teacher.

A Shanghaiese
You do not live up to the high moral standards of that profession. You should be on the streets looking for another job.

Anonymous said...

ChinaBounder say:
should be angry if my mother had a Jewish boyfriend before she got married? If she dated a Muslim?

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No, pauper, you don't get the point again.
I said she is f..ked again and again and again. OR as you said she was digged a hole by them again and again and again.

My interest is again and again and again.

why do you change word f..k to lover?
do you want to deny/hide/mitigate the fact she was f..ked again and again and again?

WHY?

instead of saying, I don't care she had lover, you must say, I don't care she was f..ked again and again and again by other parties.
Only doing so shows your genuene consistensy, doesn't it?

Anonymous said...

BounderFan said...
No... because it's none of your business. That's why.

--
Do you have linguistic problem or communication problem? I know in your country communication problem is taken seriously, try to get more training in english before you can climb the ladder.. to your own goodness.

of course it matters. Because i don't want to be hit in the face when i ask if your wife was f..ked again and again and again.

you have to tell me you will smile at me when I ask this question.

otherwise, you have no way to prove what you cliam you are.

Anonymous said...

hi, BounderFan, please don't speak on behalf of you lord.

since your language ablibity is much weaker...

Anonymous said...

ffffffffffffffffffffffffffff said...of course it matters. Because i don't want to be hit in the face when i ask if your wife was f..ked again and again and again.

If you don't want to worry about getting hit in the face then don't ask this question. To be honest I'd probably think you were just being rude and make some sort of reply about you being raised in a villiage and not knowing any better.

My Lord would probably have a similar repsonse.

Anonymous said...

Everyone here, why am i concerning the subway begger's virgin wife, is i really want to know such so-called open-mined guys is open at real.

I respect women who respect themself.

but a hypocrite will be condemned to death.

hhaa, ChinaBound, if Jesus is really married, will you convert to Muslim? In Muslim law, you can have 4 woman to f...k gaian , again and again legally. Why don'y thou just convert?

Anonymous said...

BounderFan said...
If you don't want to worry about getting hit in the face then don't ask this question.

though, i think ..., you have to answer why i'll be hit while your lord says no care.

Anonymous said...

fffffffffffffffffffffffff, I'm certain you have a point. Care to take another try at making it? Use Mandarin if it will help you properly express whatever it is that you feel.

Anonymous said...

BounderFan said...
I'd probably think you were just being rude ...

Why rude? Don't you say you don't care?

Why do you feel it's rude when a fact was raised before you and you say you don't care about the fact?

Anonymous said...

BounderFan said...

fffffffffffffffffffffffff, I'm certain you have a point. Care to take another try at making it? Use Mandarin if it will help you properly express whatever it is that you feel.


u still don't understand?
god bless you.

i'm digging a hole in your heart to find darkest side of you and chniabound and akin.

That is hypocritical.

Non wonder you guys are Christrian...

Anonymous said...

Is XXXfan an english teacher or not?

he even does not see the relationship with rude and offenssive?

he said my wording is rude while i'm asking whether my wording is offensive.

As we know, one thing becomes rude only when it is offensive. who taught him english? 2-dollar-for-coffee subway beggars?

Anonymous said...

Reviews of your Bible -- Mao: The Unknown Story -

http://sdcc17.ucsd.edu/~twan/Review%20of%20Chang%20&%20Halliday2.pdf
Pacific Affairs - Mao: A Super Monster?


...

One would expect careful and responsible analysis of source material in
such an iconoclastic work, but Chang and Halliday have taken great liberties
in this regard, distorting, stretching and quoting their sources out of context.
Despite its academic trappings, this work ignores much existing scholarship
in English and Chinese. Many of the so-called “startling revelations” are well
known, but the authors still claim to be the first to tell them. New information
is manufactured out of a manipulation of facts to such an extreme that they
can no longer be sustained by empirical evidence. The overall impression is
that the authors have reduced a complex, contradictory and multi-faceted
subject into a one-dimensional caricature of unremitting evil.

...

The authors’ version, however, is indicative of how they
manipulate evidence to make one-sided claims. This assertion contradicts
evidence in their own sources,

...

Anything goes seems to be Chang and Halliday’s attitude when it comes
to sources. They frequently rely on works of historical fiction that are
dramatized with reconstructed dialogue, and that prioritize entertainment,
sensationalism and titillation over historical accuracy. In such accounts,
factual gaps and uncertainties that baffle historians are filled in with the
authors’ imagination to complete the narrative. Chang and Halliday use
these wildly unreliable sources indiscriminately to buttress their claims.

...

This is inconsistent with the accounts offered in the
sources they cite.

...

Again, this quote is
taken out of context to prove Mao’s “ghoulish philosophy.”

...

Distortions like this abound in the book, but space
limit allows for the illustration of only a few of the most egregious.

...

They are likewise
oblivious to any possibility of multiple interpretations for their evidence.

...

A subject as complex as Mao’s life
and times cannot be treated in black and white terms. Yet the authors take
things at face value, offering up page after page of wild assertions, leaving
readers no room for reflection or imagination.

...

The tremendous
policy blunders and human costs of Mao’s policies should continue to be
revealed and discussed, but by trampling all over their sources in their efforts
to provide a simplistic and sensational analysis, Chang and Halliday have
botched their chance.



http://www.lrb.co.uk/v27/n22/nath01_.html
London Review of Books - Jade and Plastic


...

There are problems, however: many of their discoveries come from sources that cannot be checked, others are openly speculative or are based on circumstantial evidence, and some are untrue.

...

They cite the document in the notes, but do not say where it can be seen.

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How other scholars can consult these remarks isn’t stated.

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which they describe as unpublished. They do not say where they saw it.

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What is troubling about Mao: The Untold Story is the authors’ failure to give readers any information to help them to evaluate their sources’ reliability. A lengthy research project that denigrates Mao, involving access to many individuals and many remote and secret locations all over China, over a period of many years, and drawing on a significant number of sensitive unpublished sources, in a country where the keys to history are tightly held, legitimately raises questions that the authors should have anticipated and addressed.

...

It is clear that many of Chang and Halliday’s claims are based on distorted, misleading or far-fetched use of evidence.

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However, the citation is garbled, so the file Chang and Halliday used cannot be located

...

Although the sources may be tendentious, Chang and Halliday do not explain why it is reasonable to use them in support of an opposite argument.

...

Some of Chang and Halliday’s arguments go beyond the misuse of sources to make claims that are simply unsourced.

...

Chang and Halliday are magpies: every bright piece of evidence goes in, no matter where it comes from or how reliable it is. Jade and plastic together, the pieces are arranged in a stark mosaic, which portrays a possible but not a plausible Mao.

...

Chang and Halliday position themselves as near omniscient narrators, permitting themselves to say constantly what Mao and others really thought or really intended, when we seldom have any way of knowing.

...

The structure of the book makes checking the sources more difficult than is usual for a work of serious scholarship.


Sources that, unlike your Bible, are not one-sided propaganda:
Philip Short - Mao: A Life
Lee Feigon - Mao: A Reinterpretation
Ross Terrill - Mao: A Biography
Michael Lynch - Mao

ChinaBounder's email: said...

Anonymous said…Reviews of your Bible


Clearly there are problems with the Mao biography. The authors do take an unremittingly negative view, and do not give enough detail about the other people in the regime who made Mao’s insanities possible. Some of their claims, such as about widespread `cannibal parties’ do indeed seem improbable, and the bibliography and footnotes are not ideal (though this is perhaps no surprise given the CPC’s obsessive control of information.) Certainly, their conjectures are partial and colored. I have followed the critical opinion that greeted the book closely, and the reviews you have culled are hardly news to me.

However, the facts I have mentioned on this blog, such as the average citizen in 1960 getting fewer calories than the average Auschwitz inmate, fall outside the realm of conjecture and are independently verifiable. Indeed, with regard to that fact, I checked it myself via a contact within the Chinese Academy of Sciences.

And you still have not directed me to any evidence backing up your claim that Mao stopped foot-binding. I think you will find that this was one of the aims of the early revolutionaries and the CPC before Mao even became a part of it. The CPC – in its formative years – had many good and noble aims. But Mao was never a part of that.

Anonymous said...

中国年轻的一代人大多对Mao并无好感,如果你意识不到这点的话,或许是因为你接触的那小部分人缺乏独立思想,或许是他们懒得与你一老外谈此类话题,但也的确有不足。我只将此blog看成外人所作之浮士绘,看后有收获,无论你原作何居心。至于男女之事你情我愿,国人全无揪出示众之必要,以观后效么。有些地方也颇为可笑,其实双方都缺乏了解,中国的问题也并非嘴上说着短时间就能解决的.

Anonymous said...

I never mentioned foot-binding.

ChinaBounder's email: said...

Anonymous said...I never mentioned foot-binding.


You are right, of course; my mistake. I was wrong. I apologize.

I am not so sure about the position of arranged marriages. Mao, as I am sure you know, was the 'victim' of one such marriage himself, with his first wife, 'Woman Luo.'

But once again nothing I have read convinces me he took any stand against this problem. Indeed, it seems to me the CPC had its own form of arranged marriages, via the system of would-be couples needing to get permission from work units to wed.

Since you do seem to know your stuff, I am sure you can point me to the concrete steps Mao took to make life better for 'his' people.

Anonymous said...

ChinaBounder,
you have no interest in your multi-f..ked mom any more....?

Anonymous said...

.

http://whoischinabounder.blogspot.com/


1. Lives in Shanghai. (Came to China six years ago.)
2. From England. (Also spent time in Germany and Australia)
3. 34 years old (born 1971).
4. Teaches English in various universities.
5. Knows Jiao Tong university well.
6. Gives his msn/email to students at the end of classes.
7. Lives on or near Huai Hai Road.
8. Reasonably good spoken/written Chinese.
9. Email address: chinabounder@gmail.com (Spam it, if you wish.)
10. Employment in England has included: working for several years for H4H; working in an environmental pressure group at Westminster; working in a project related with mental health.


PLEASE ASSIST by adding the relevant blog passage to the below FOOTNOTES:


2.
LITTLE BLACK BOOK -- Friday, August 25, 2006
“… she reminded me of a girlfriend back in England … And this particular girlfriend back in England was a long term part of my life, and the years I spent in Germany and then Australia.”

3. LITTLE BLACK BOOK -- Friday, August 25, 2006 -- (as he wrote in the COMMENTS section)
“I love my parents because they have raised me, not because 34 years ago my Dad fucked my Mum.” ; and,
He has earlier stated he was born in the year of the dog – (1971 = yr of the dog).

7.
SEDUCING CHRISTINE #4 -- Saturday, August 19, 2006
“So after eating we walked along Huai Hai Road back to my place.”

8.
Six yrs in China + Frequent use of Chinese in blog.

9.
As recorded in his “Profile” for his website.

10. LITTLE BLACK BOOK -- Friday, August 25, 2006 -- (as he wrote in the COMMENTS section)
“I worked for several years for H4H, as well as in an environmental pressure group at Westminster. I also did a stint helping in a project related with mental health.”

Anonymous said...

Let me repeat: For anyone who commits adultery as a teacher should be kicked out of school no matter he is in China or somewhere else. Such a person lacks the moral standards for that profession.

Let's try to find him out and hand him the pink slip.

A Shanghaiese

Anonymous said...

You are right, of course; my mistake. I was wrong. I apologize.

I am not so sure about the position of arranged marriages. Mao, as I am sure you know, was the 'victim' of one such marriage himself, with his first wife, 'Woman Luo.'

But once again nothing I have read convinces me he took any stand against this problem. Indeed, it seems to me the CPC had its own form of arranged marriages, via the system of would-be couples needing to get permission from work units to wed.

Since you do seem to know your stuff, I am sure you can point me to the concrete steps Mao took to make life better for 'his' people.


Sources listed above.

James said...

you can't argue with people who think they are morally superior. The real facts are he has broken no laws and the only objections you have are moral ones. Well, it's pretty stupid to try to force your morals on another person ... on any person. Especially when your society is nearly morally bankrupt itself.

Choose to stop being sheep lead around by the CPC from one distraction to another, and turn your intense scrutiny inward to the ills of your own society.

ChinaBounder's email: said...

Anonymous said...Sources listed above

I will read them, thank-you.

Anonymous said...

TO Chinabonunder,

If that's the way you think of china and chinese people, why would you even bother to stay? Apprently you are a big loser in your own country and sex in china is the only sex you could get.

I find people are really makeing a big fuss here. Nobody should really care about a bum like you .

Anonymous said...

james, i'm not morally superior,
in fact, i'm not morally inferior,

but how come you guys dare not defend your queen?

Anonymous said...

U will never have ture love.
when u said,"I love u" is disgusting.
all the women in the world would say no to u if they know what really inside u.
u are against all the women in the world.
all day but having sex thoughts or acts, how can u be a teacher?
Please quit the job do not make the job dirty.

Anonymous said...

ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff:

Let me clear: You are rude and a barbarian. 你是一个没受过教养的野蛮人。

不管你的观点对还是不对,你还是一个流氓的农民。

Anonymous said...

what the fuck¬¬¬¬¬

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff:

Let me clear: You are rude and a barbarian. 你是一个没受过教养的野蛮人。


---
Anonymous the stupid,
what makes you so angry? isn't it against the spirit of open mind?

you have no ground at all and you have to prove/analyze why I'm rude in your eyes.

i can be anything but hypocrite.

Anonymous said...

You're son of the English bitch! GO to fuck your mum's pussy.
I am doubting those English gentlemen all like you.
Wish your son has no ass hole to shit,your daughter has no pussy to let you fucking man to fuck

Anonymous said...

If you think that Chinabounder sucks, and hope more people to know about him.

If you think what ChinaBounder wrote is acually what happened in Shanghai and China, and hope more people to aware about it.

Translate it into Chinese.
send it to chinabounder.chinese@gmail.com
We will post it over
http://chinabounderinchinese.blogspot.com/index.html

Anonymous said...

If you think that Chinabounder sucks, then hope more people to know about him.
If you think what ChinaBounder wrote is acually what happened in Shanghai and China, and hope more people to aware about it.

Translate it into Chinese.
send it to chinabounder.chinese@gmail.com
We will post it over
http://chinabounderinchinese.blogspot.com/index.html

Anonymous said...

you are not welcomed in China.

Anonymous said...

I think you have no mistakes,everyone has his/her own life style,and all we can do is to accept .The blog is a very private thing,sometimes ,if we have something that we don't want the people around us to know,but have to share with some others, we may write it down in our blogs.Maybe we did hurt somebody's emotion,but we din't mention to do that .So chinabounder ,I hope you enjoy your everyday life in China,and go to have some more fun.

Anonymous said...

Well Prof. Zhang might not be romantic, but that doesn't generalizes an unromantic Chinese male profile.

I'm a Shanghai native now living in America. I fuck free white cunts here too, a white cunt is a cunt, just not a second-rate cunt. And I gave them more beautiful descriptions of their womanhood than yours. Well in general I don't like white women: for one thing they're too stupid, lack a profound sense of humor which only a time-honored civilization like China can afford. The white cunts are often too hairy, actually quite in line with their intellectual inferiority to Chinese women. I seldomly get the kind of creative and more refined sex from them. Anyway this is unrefined America, so one can't be too picky for fuckmates.

This loser, Chinabounder here, is so pathetic that he must have been used for a bit foreign exotics by the least wanted Chinese girls. Otherwise being an observant writer himself, he couldn't have come up with the nonsense generalization that Chinese girls are shy, sexually ignorant, controlled by parents, etc. Less likely would he have mentioned his only pathetic endowment: of the 4 S of male sexuality, stamina, strength, sentimentality, and size, size matters the least. Ask any Chinese woman, they knew this since the time of classical Taoism. Chinese men have much greater stamina and same girth to make their women the world's sexiest. This is the truth I learnt from my American sluts here.

Let me also tell you about my very first girlfriend. We went our own ways studying abroad when we were teenagers. She had a few flings with her American college boys and even engaged once. She dumped her American fiance because he was just a boring Mr.Nice Guy. Now 15 years later we met again. Looking back all these years she told me I'm her one and only love just because of the kind of destructive passions we feel for each other. In comparison her American encounters were all second-rate choices she made in a time when she couldn't be with her true love. She used the word "confess" to describe the guilt she 's felt about having slept with those Americans, she was such a smart girl that she stopped sex with the less desirable right after the mistakes and entirely blocked the memory of those guys since long.

Yes we are still making love, and on few occasions making baby as she felt obliged to make up things for our starcrossed love affair.

This is just how one professor in the USA, an ethnic Chinese female, views one Chinese man against her American schoolmates in her early 20's. She married another Chinese classmate, easily more charming than the Americans, when she was 26.

So wake up from your pathetic stereotype: it's you who lacks passions, romantic tricks, and sexual prowess. It's a pity you never seem to be able to imagine how manly many Chinese men really are!

Now piss off and continue your gutter-slut hunt. Don't forget some protection for yourself as most Chinese women are probably more sexually experienced than you. They are the sexiest women because their have the sexiest men. what else you think have brought China the world's #1 population? It takes 4000 years of #1 feminity and masculinity!

Anonymous said...

TEST

Anonymous said...

What Chinabounder did/is doing/will do is his own busines, as well as the girls' as well.

As an Asian American (Chinese-American) I say we just let them do as they please, come on, its a free world and its 2007 not 2000 BC

How many girls a guy meet and you-know-what and where they are from doesn't matter...Its kinda disgusting to see all these response from the Chinese ppl/media

Anonymous said...

Following the previous post, I would also like to point out the fact that as long as the girls having sex with Chinabounder wasn't being forced upon, and they were of legal age...why can't he have sex with them??

Unless of course, its stated in the Chinese Constitution that Chinese women cannot have sex with foreign men, and that foreign men can only have sex with X number of Chinese women.

What a lot of ppl posted here reflects how intolerant and narrow-minded the Chinese ppl are..I hereby declare the PRC as the new facist PRKKK (People's Republic of Ku Klax Klan)

Wake up ppl !! As long as the girl is willingly, no one has the right to judge this Chinabounder guy.

Anonymous said...

Hi Chinabounder ! u are doing a great job. I have to agree with most of what u said about china and the chinese. just remember that they are some good girls, don't break their heart. keep writing and exposing the hypocracy in this country with "5000" years of history.

Anonymous said...

great chinabounder keep starting shit it's really helping me to recruit more followers. Keep provoking Chinese people. I hope your new blogs are fifty times as offensive.

Anonymous said...

Hey Chinabounder, I just found your blog. Want you to know, I am Chinese, but I don't think what you do is a big deal. It's not like you are raping all these Chinese girls. Love/sex doesn't need nationalism.

Fellow Chinese, Don't hate the playa, hate the game.

Anonymous said...

http://blog.hasanagha.org/images/haft_tir-5_21.jpg

Please see this link that show an Iranian girl like many other girls in Iran and Islamic lands had be harmed by Iranian police because here topcoat were not like some model who Islamic Government had determined by Quran!

Many Iranian People do not like Islam but government Kill and harm them.

قال زهرا بنت رسول الله از جهنم:

خداوند فرمود بواسته دروغی که برخدا بسته ام و خود را بانوی برگزیده خدا درجهان نام نهادم و چادر بسر کردن را بر زنان جهان اجباری کردم و چون به خاطر گناه زهرا بنت رسول و پدرش و خاندانش بر زنان ایران ستم می شود و دختران را کتک می زنند.

خداوند امر کرده زهرای بنت رسول درجهنم کسش باز شده و اهل جهنم و بهشت بر کس او می رینند و زهدان حضرت زهرا پر از گوه شده .
و مکرو و مکرالله


حزب مبارزه با ستم اسلامگرایان (فاکرین حزب الله ) اعلام کرد چون ریشه همه بدبختی های ملت ایران و جهان اسلام است به ازای هر ظلم به هر ایرانی میلیون ها کیر خر و کیر خوک و ...کامنتی به کس و کون آل محمد رسول الله روانه خواهد کرد.

کیر و سنده خوک تو کس حضرت زهرا بنت رسول الله

به حزب ما بپیوندید و کامنت دونی ها را پر از آنچه شایسته آل محمد است کنید.

کسانی که به زبان های خارجه مسلط هستند کامنت دونی های وبلاگ های خارجی را مستفیض فرمایند.

هرکس روزانه در 10 وبلاگ انگلیسی زبان یا عرب زبان آنچه شایسته محمد رسول الله است را بنویسد تا خارجی ها متوجه علاقه ایرانیان به اسلام شوند. اگر فقط 1000 نفر هم از حزب ما استقبال کنند بزودی اکثر سایت های دارای رنکینگ اینترنت پر از ابراز نفرت ایرانیان نسبت به اسلام خواهد شد.

برای خلیج فارس بمب گوگلی درست کردید که چرا دریای فارس را عرب کرده اند فرهنگ عرب حاصل تفکر محمد رسول الله پست تر از شیطان و حیوان را به فرهنگ درخشان 2500 ساله ایرانی برگزیده اید؟ نگرانید که چرا خلیج فارس را عرب نام گذاشته اند ولی ناراحت نیستید که از بیخ عربتان کرده اند؟

ستاد حزب مبارزه با ستم اسلامگرایان.
و نحن الفاکرین الغالبون
We will have all hizbolla women fucked by dogs.
Now God, say you must fucked Mohammad and Quran by send message to all people of world.
This message sent from Iran

Anonymous said...

hi, you don't know me and I don't know you. However, we all love China, from different way. I trully love my country and maybe you just enjoy getting sex in China. I married to a Enghlish man, dicent and nice, a real gentlman, not like you just want have sex. we are in true love for many years now. I feel sorry about your sex mates and your future wife and your kids, whatever you do peopel will know what you'v done. I am so sorry for your wife, what she will think about you? I am glad I found a dicent one for me. and I will love him forever.You are in China, not just repersent yourself also your country and your family. Think about what peopel will say about your culture?

Anonymous said...

Why'd you write that? That was so sad and depressing. It really does show your "lack of moral fibre", which you so cockily display in your signature. To think you knew she was married, yet still calculatingly tried to seduce her into an adulterous relationship, one that might've destroyed a marriage. And for what? Just so you could make a another notch in your little black book? Have you no respect or self-respect for that matter? Then was it because she was Chinese and in China you think you can get away with anything? That's pretty sick to think about! Keep your lack of moral fibre in the UK where it belongs, where sluts abound! London is NOT the land of Ladies and Gentlemen anymore, that's for sure! See link: http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/...of+the+British

Anonymous said...

Hello-

Don't know if you're up to reading all these comments... but I don't find your blog offensive. However, I am not surprised that so many others do. You have the audacity only to post what so many think. Having spent time is many Asian countries, I understand some of what you say and can extrapolate the truth in the rest. It's normal and, frankly, a 21st century expression of the male imperitive. If only you chose to explore your sexuality in someplace like Thailand or, for that matte, france; nary an eyebrow would be raised.

So jut remember that these ladies will live long with their moemories of you and how you treat them, be kind and generous of the heart, and above all, be careful.

And for those of you lurkers and anonymous haters out there, call me whatever you will. I am a multi=published author, Stanford-graduated MA with my own demons and passions like all of you.

And then... MOVE ON.

They are just words, and can only hurt you via your own insecurities, cultural inhibitions, and vanities.

Peace.

ChinaBounder's email: said...

‘So just remember that these ladies will live long with their memories of you and how you treat them, be kind and generous of the heart, and above all, be careful.’

I do try to. I’m sure I don’t always succeed. Deedee, for example, has cut me entirely, never responding to my intermittent messages. A pity; I was very fond of her. And I do read all comments on here. Thank-you for yours.

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